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Re:Reviving a Modular Cargo Bike Design from the 1930s by jmercouris on Monday May 12, 2025 @12:14PM (#43964652)
This design is unstable and expensive to produce with a complicated in wheel transmission. It is novel, but almost certainly more expensive and less reliable than existing designs.
Re:Reviving a Modular Cargo Bike Design from the 1930s by camtarn on Monday May 12, 2025 @01:06PM (#43965216)
You've not come across hub gears on bikes before, have you? They were pretty much the standard before derailleur gears became popular, and modern ones can have up to 7 speeds.
Re:Reviving a Modular Cargo Bike Design from the 1930s by jmercouris on Monday May 12, 2025 @02:39PM (#43966212)
I meant the whole design. The hub gear is no different than on any other bicycle and can be reliable.
Re:Reviving a Modular Cargo Bike Design from the 1930s by mrob on Monday May 12, 2025 @01:15PM (#43965325)
Modern ones can have more than 7 speeds. The Rohloff Speedhub has 14 speeds, and the Shimano Alfine is available with either 8 or 11 speeds.
Re:Reviving a Modular Cargo Bike Design from the 1930s by lostlogin on Monday May 12, 2025 @03:45PM (#43966797)
They are so so nice to ride.

I’ve ended up with some electronic road SRAM which is seriously quick in comparison (except for the slow rider), but do miss the smooth internal hub and the stationary gear changes.

Re:Reviving a Modular Cargo Bike Design from the 1930s by camtarn on Monday May 12, 2025 @09:48PM (#43969041)
Oh, nice, the state of the art has advanced since I last read about hub gears, which was ... oh dear, about twenty years ago? No wonder things have improved :)
Re:Reviving a Modular Cargo Bike Design from the 1930s by ninalanyon on Monday May 12, 2025 @01:10PM (#43965253)
In wheel gears have been in use for over a century very successfully. I had a Raleigh bicycle with Sturmey Archer gears as a child. It never gave me any trouble, unlike the derailleur gears I had on later bicycles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hub_gear

Re:Reviving a Modular Cargo Bike Design from the 1930s by jerlam on Monday May 12, 2025 @01:17PM (#43965340)
But modern hub gears are no longer standard, and relegated to specific use cases.

There's a lot of friction in hub gears (at least the one I rode a decade ago), and fixing them is generally impractical.

Re:Reviving a Modular Cargo Bike Design from the 1930s by puzzlingcaptcha on Monday May 12, 2025 @04:15PM (#43967031)
Shimano Nexus is from 1995. What did you ride twenty years later, in 2015? I call BS on the friction argument.
Re:Reviving a Modular Cargo Bike Design from the 1930s by codersarepeople on Monday May 12, 2025 @11:46PM (#43969505)
It's true that internally geared bikes are common, especially in Europe. But internal gear hubs that are coaxial with pedals are almost unheard of. The only production one ever is the Schlumpf Unicycle hub, which costs $1500 and only a few hundred have ever been made. It also has only 2 gears. It's certainly possible to do, but I have doubts about a company opting for that incredibly expensive option of creating a new hub instead of reusing standard bike parts.
Re:Reviving a Modular Cargo Bike Design from the 1930s by lmm on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @05:21AM (#43971081)
> In wheel gears have been in use for over a century very successfully.

They've been barely viable the whole time. Sturmey Archer are the last maker in business; they went bankrupt a couple of decades back and for some years there was serious concern that manufacturing would never resume.

Re:Reviving a Modular Cargo Bike Design from the 1930s by WJW on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @06:21AM (#43971403)
...what? There's a whole bunch of manufacturers, so many that there's an entire Wikipedia page disccusinge them at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_hub_gears. There's at least 8 different manufacturers on there, some with many different models. Some were introduced as recently as 2023, so it's hardly some abandoned legacy technology.