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Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by readthenotes1 on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @02:04PM (#43918839)
Somewhat ironically, HD killed cinematography.

Because there's enough clarity to see set errors, everything important is filmed in the dark.

Examples: just about every fight scene since 2018; Castle first season vs last.

One of the reasons why Shogun was so appealing is they did something different.

Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by betterThanTexas on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @02:30PM (#43919108)
HD is lower quality than film. Maybe this is true for home entertainment, but we take less advantage of darkness than ever from my perspective. It's the video-game CGI that kills me.
Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by layer8 on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @02:47PM (#43919283)
There was an experiment maybe 15 years ago, where they sent film material through the whole printing and distribution process, and measured the vertical resolution that could still be resolved on an actual cinema screen using analog projection. The result was around 700p IIRC, below full HD in any case.
Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by ToValueFunfetti on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @03:57PM (#43919991)
Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by rightbyte on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @03:23PM (#43919667)
700p? Are you sure? I don't belive cinemas had about the same resolution as PAL at 576p. 720p is blurry too on big screens.
Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by layer8 on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @04:25PM (#43920232)
See the PDF kindly linked by the sibling (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43919991):

• “The highest resolution that the expert assessors could discern in the highest performing movie theater was about 875 L/PH.

• “The horizontal resolution averaged over the six multi-burst groups measured on the screens of the six selected movie theaters was about 715 L/PH.”

L/PH = lines per picture height, i.e. vertical resolution

This was for 35 mm film.

Also, well-mastered DVDs with anamorphic widescreen can look astonishingly good on an output device that doesn’t interpolate its lines.

Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by pantalaimon on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @03:49PM (#43919911)
4k remasters are done by scanning film, 35mm has plenty resolution
Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by layer8 on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @04:28PM (#43920254)
Watching a 4K digital scan of a master copy on a 4K TV is different from what you would see in movie theaters. The roughly 700-800 lines is the apparent resolution one would experience in a real-life movie theater with analog projection.

The point is that even 1080p TV is an improvement in resolution over what you used to see in cinemas with 35 mm prints.

Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by BizarroLand on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @03:39PM (#43919828)
Yeah, I'm gonna need to see some receipts. From what I remember super35 film should approach 8k resolution under ideal conditions.
Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by betterThanTexas on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @03:53PM (#43919954)
> under ideal conditions.

I interpreted the claim as being under non-ideal conditions (which is fair, frankly—it's well-known that the visual and sound quality is better at the beginning of a run than at the end, and film quality doesn't matter if your local theater doesn't ensure it's preserved as best it can be).

Plus, I saw a film viewing of Sinners this past weekend (quite a fun movie, highly recommend it) and some visual artifacts were very noticeable—it was regular enough I figured there was a slice of the film roll that got damaged somehow.

Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by BizarroLand on Thursday May 08, 2025 @04:45PM (#43931134)
Just for a quick update, I got curious and it seems the resolution actually should be a touch over 10k for super35, as for regular 35mm it seems spot on at 9.5k resolution.

https://www.filmfix.com/en/blog/35mm-film-resolution/

Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by WalterBright on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @03:28PM (#43919717)
> filmed in the dark

House of Dragon was so filmed in the dark, with poor contrast, and color-corrected to be all blue and orange, is almost painful to watch. I have a hard time even seeing what is happening.

Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by mrmuagi on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @02:18PM (#43918988)
And "modern" TVs have motion smoothing which make so many things look so synthetic and dizzying.
Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by horacemorace on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @03:49PM (#43919912)
We’ve got the minority opinion; most don’t even notice. I make a point to ask whenever around others near one.
Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by nunez on Thursday May 08, 2025 @12:46AM (#43923124)
First thing I turn off when I get new TVs. It destroys old cartoons especially. Neutral color profile too. RTINGS tells you how to do it.
Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by drewcoo on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @02:30PM (#43919107)
> Somewhat ironically, HD killed cinematography.

Imagine Wild Strawberries in HD. I think it would seem bleaker. Or Blue Velvet. It would make Blue Velvet creepier. It would also make any Corman film seem classier.

HD didn't ruin cinema. It only ruins beauty.

Re:Getting Older Isn't What You Think by kjkjadksj on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @02:21PM (#43919020)
On the other hand a surprising amount of modern movies are still filmed on kodak movie film then scanned for digital distribution.