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Re:O3 beats a master-level GeoGuessr player, even with fake ... by rafram on Tuesday April 29, 2025 @01:17PM (#43835422)
Re:O3 beats a master-level GeoGuessr player, even with fake ... by sltkr on Tuesday April 29, 2025 @01:45PM (#43835753)
But if anything, those rules benefit ChatGPT: it can remember ~all of Wikipedia and translate ~every language on Earth, while a human would need access to online services for that.

If anything, I'd think allowing looking stuff up would benefit human players over ChatGPT (though humans are probably much slower at it, so they probably lose on time).

Re:O3 beats a master-level GeoGuessr player, even with fake ... by kbenson on Tuesday April 29, 2025 @02:09PM (#43836045)
If it takes a model and database with a large chunk of the internet to compete and win, then that says something, as that's much more expensive and complex than just the model, because models have problems "remembering" correctly just like people.

It's important to have fair and equivalent testing not because that allows people to win, but because it shows where the strengths and weaknesses of people and current AI actually are in a useful way.

Re:O3 beats a master-level GeoGuessr player, even with fake ... by cocoto on Tuesday April 29, 2025 @02:37PM (#43836374)
Connecting an LLM to the web or database is something cheap, not something expensive.
Re:O3 beats a master-level GeoGuessr player, even with fake ... by kbenson on Tuesday April 29, 2025 @02:56PM (#43836602)
I'm not sure how to make sense of this in the context of what we're discussing. Access to the web is exactly what's in question, and emulating the internet to a degree you don't actually need to access it to have the information is very expensive in resources because of how massive the dataset is, which is the point I was making.
Re:O3 beats a master-level GeoGuessr player, even with fake ... by Gud on Tuesday April 29, 2025 @02:59PM (#43836635)
Same with a human.