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Re:Full power outage in Spain and Portugal by benterix on Monday April 28, 2025 @07:35AM (#43820128)
Well, it's been for quite a while now. Acts of micro- (or mini-) aggression like fires, explosives in commercial shipping services, broken sea cables just became daily news.

The only positive aspect of this is after the root cause is found, the grid will become more resilient in the long term (but these kinds of changes typically take long time).

Re:Full power outage in Spain and Portugal by deeThrow94 on Monday April 28, 2025 @07:42AM (#43820203)
Again, how would these actions do anything but weaken Russia's position given the EU's apparent willingness to stay on the sidelines? Wouldn't ukraine benefit the most from the perception that Russia is at war with the EU?
Re:Full power outage in Spain and Portugal by Calwestjobs on Monday April 28, 2025 @07:56AM (#43820361)
Spain helped ukraine with planning of this - https://apnews.com/article/russia-moskalik-car-bomb-322ab66d...

so blackout is attack from russia. so stop spreading lies of terrorist russian state.

Re:Full power outage in Spain and Portugal by whynotmaybe on Monday April 28, 2025 @08:08AM (#43820493)
Outside of discussing whether Russia is behind this or not, the broader Russian strategy seems aimed at undermining trust in European governments. [1]

The goal would be to create enough pressure from people - frustrated by problems like power cuts — so that governments must withdraw their support for Ukraine.

Any "WW III" fearmongering is similar : intimidate everyone into withdrawing support.

Many European countries have created emergency guides to help citizens preparing for crisis like this one. [2] This, I guess, has the underlying goal of maintaining trust in European governments.

[1] : https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-increasing-hybrid-att...

[2] : https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-commission-urges-sto...

Re:Full power outage in Spain and Portugal by rsynnott on Monday April 28, 2025 @07:51AM (#43820306)
> given the EU's apparent willingness to stay on the sidelines?

... Wait, how are you defining that? Much of the EU is about as close as it is possible to be to being at war with Russia without actually sending in troops.

Re:Full power outage in Spain and Portugal by atemerev on Monday April 28, 2025 @07:48AM (#43820273)
For the record, I don't think that this particular event is a Russian act of sabotage.

But Russia is an aggressive authoritarian state that was already caught for (smaller) acts of sabotage in EU, some of them quite dangerous. Why they are doing this? Who knows, war in Ukraine was not rational too. Perhaps some people want to be evil just for the sake of being evil.

As a Russian emigrant, I long stopped trying to rationalize Kremlin decisions. Why authoritarians are authoritarians? Who knows. Mad with power or something.

Re:Full power outage in Spain and Portugal by hkpack on Monday April 28, 2025 @08:27AM (#43820714)
The strategy is not even a secret. Russia sees itself as a major influence of the Europe.

You cannot control stable governments, so you destabilise them with various tools for prolonged periods of time and then you end up with a country which is much easier to influence.

Re:Full power outage in Spain and Portugal by croes on Monday April 28, 2025 @07:48AM (#43820275)
How could this weaken Russia's position without a smoking gun pointing at them?

Same with the undersea cables.