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Re:Did 5G Kill the IMSI Catcher? by NavinF on Sunday April 27, 2025 @05:25PM (#43815272)
> mmWave is phone vaporware

Is it? I've definitely seen "5G UW" show up on my 15 Pro Max in the bay area. Att and Verizon are slowly expanding mmWave

Re:Did 5G Kill the IMSI Catcher? by Scoundreller on Sunday April 27, 2025 @05:37PM (#43815338)
Get a non-US iPhone which doesn't support those: https://www.apple.com/iphone/cellular/
Re:Did 5G Kill the IMSI Catcher? by NavinF on Tuesday April 29, 2025 @05:36PM (#43838303)
I like getting gbps on my phone. Everything syncs quickly including 4k60 videos
Re:Did 5G Kill the IMSI Catcher? by devmor on Sunday April 27, 2025 @11:20PM (#43817190)
I regularly see it in Atlanta in the big tech business areas (Buckhead, Midtown, etc) but it is hilariously bad.

Whenever I notice my cellular data has regressed to 3G speeds and reliability, I look up at the network status and see “5G UW”.

I don’t know if they deployed it without enough bandwidth on the trunk to handle all of the users or something else but I generally have to toggle airplane mode to drop back into 5G or LTE to get off of it.

Re:Did 5G Kill the IMSI Catcher? by vachina on Monday April 28, 2025 @12:17AM (#43817501)
Ditto, I’ve disabled 5G entirely because it performs worse in high density areas compared to LTE.
Re:Did 5G Kill the IMSI Catcher? by delfinom on Monday April 28, 2025 @07:15AM (#43819948)
"5G UW" is marketing bullshit by Verizon that they force cellphone makers to display. Basically it originally meant "mmWave" but was later revised to "mmWave or mid-band". You are probably seeing the mid-band due to the limitations of mmWave.
Re:Did 5G Kill the IMSI Catcher? by maxsilver on Monday April 28, 2025 @09:30AM (#43821350)
"5G UW" is good service, but it's not usually mmWave. It's primarily mid-band stuff, usually Band n77 (3.7ghz C-Band)

It's usually good, but that's primarily because Verizon is going a good-ish job (in Michigan, at least) of deploying it densely in smaller neighborhood/urban cell sites (2x to 3x site density over traditional PCS-spaced cell towers). It's basically Verizon's version of what Clear was supposed to be doing with WiMax.

Notably, C-Band is not mmWave. mmWave bands start at like the 24.2ghz+, way way higher up the spectrum band.

If your phone reads "5G UW", there's like a 95% chance you aren't on mmWave, you are on n77 / C-Band / 'mid-band'.