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Re:ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Pr... by eastbound on Saturday April 26, 2025 @12:13PM (#43804892)
The US has decided they do not want the mother in US, because she’s not citizen. I don’t understand why it’s Orwellian, it was written all over when she illegally entered the US. And she was given the choice to get separated or keep the child.

The only Orwellian thing is she was lied to by Democrats that she could lead a safe life in the US. That’s on you.

Re:ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Pr... by ajross on Saturday April 26, 2025 @12:45PM (#43805139)
> And she was given the choice to get separated or keep the child.

Representing that as a "choice" is precisely the Orwellian part. I'm guessing you don't have kids.

Re:ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Pr... by eastbound on Saturday April 26, 2025 @01:07PM (#43805302)
You’re taking the rest of the world hostage with the child.

The crime was that she was allowed here in the first place, whether by the people who made her believe it was possible, or by her breaking the laws as the act of entry in the country.

Re:ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Pr... by sixothree on Saturday April 26, 2025 @01:46PM (#43805629)
It is hard to distinguish a lack of empathy from pure evil.
Re:ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Pr... by tomrod on Saturday April 26, 2025 @02:02PM (#43805768)
The Lumineers nailed it. The opposite of love isn't hate, it is indifference.
Re:ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Pr... by chasd00 on Saturday April 26, 2025 @12:49PM (#43805168)
> The only Orwellian thing is she was lied to by Democrats that she could lead a safe life in the US. That’s on you.

This cannot be overstated. I wish I had a thousand up votes to give you. Democrats made a promise they knew would never hold up just for the votes. Now the chickens are coming home to roost and these people who were lied to by Democrats are the ones paying the price.

Re:ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Pr... by jmull on Saturday April 26, 2025 @01:20PM (#43805433)
What’s the logical train of thought here?

It’s OK for a citizen to lose their rights if a political party exists that espouses views you don’t agree with and it’s possible someone related to that citizen may (or may not) have listened to those views?

Re:ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Pr... by ajross on Saturday April 26, 2025 @01:53PM (#43805689)
I think the steelman version would be that the rights in question shouldn't exist. In that world view, the birthright citizenship granted by the 14th amendment is an inconvenience to be worked around; and the business here about forcing a "choice"[1] where the parents will "deport" their own citizen children is in fact the desired policy result and not a humanitarian horror.

[1] Which of course isn't one, thus the Orwellian point upthread.

Re:ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Pr... by tomrod on Saturday April 26, 2025 @02:05PM (#43805786)
Yeesh. Even the steelman is grossly immoral!
Re:ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Pr... by const_cast on Saturday April 26, 2025 @03:18PM (#43806322)
The tired trope of blaming all bad Republican actions on Democrats because they "let it happen" is lame.

No, the democrats are not secretly worse because they're watching evil happen. The people doing the evil are worse, actually. That's just how that works.

Re:ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Pr... by low_tech_love on Saturday April 26, 2025 @04:41PM (#43807016)
What promise was that, exactly? Do you have a quote?

If not, and you mean “promise by inaction”, then could we say then that Trump made a promise to racists, neo-nazis, crypto criminals, the Russian government, etc?

Re:ICE Deports 3 U.S. Citizen Children Held Incommunicado Pr... by low_tech_love on Saturday April 26, 2025 @04:45PM (#43807045)
Honest question, does it have to be done this way? Or could they wait maybe 2 extra hours until the child was safe? It seems to me that they are cowards who prey on those weaker than them and are too afraid to face those of their “own size”.