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Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by Workaccount2 on Thursday April 24, 2025 @03:03PM (#43786249)
The inaccuracies are that it is called "Marathon Valley" (not crater) and that it was photographed in April 2015 (from the rim) or that in July 2015 actually entered. The other stuff is correct.

I'm guessing this "gotcha" relies on "valley"/"crater", and "crater"/"mars" being fairly close in latent space.

ETA: Marathon Valley also exists on the rim of Endeavour crater. Just to make it even more confusing.

Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by mvdtnz on Thursday April 24, 2025 @03:09PM (#43786332)
None of it is correct because it was not asked about Marathon Valley, it was asked about Marathon Crater, a thing that does not exist, and it is claiming that it exists and making up facts about it.
Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by Workaccount2 on Thursday April 24, 2025 @03:50PM (#43786789)
Or it's assuming you are asking about Marathon Valley, which is very reasonable given the context.

Ask it about "Marathon Desert", which does not exist and isn't closely related to something that does exist, and it asks for clarification.

I'm not here to say LLMs are oracles of knowledge, but I think the need to carefully craft specific "gotcha" questions in order to generate wrong answers is a pretty compelling case in the opposite direction. Like the childhood joke of "Whats up?"..."No, you dummy! The sky is!"

Straightforward questions with straight wrong answers are far more interesting. I don't many people ask LLMs trick questions all day.

Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by krainboltgreene on Thursday April 24, 2025 @08:06PM (#43788857)
If someone asked me or my kid "What do you know about Mt. Olampus." we wouldn't reply: "Oh, Mt. Olampus is a big mountain in greek myth...". We'd say "Wait, did you mean Mt. Olympus?"

It doesn't "assume" anything, because it can't assume, that's now the machine works.

Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by empath75 on Thursday April 24, 2025 @03:42PM (#43786695)
> None of it is correct because it was not asked about Marathon Valley, it was asked about Marathon Crater, a thing that does not exist, and it is claiming that it exists and making up facts about it.

The Marathon Valley _is_ part of a massive impact crater.

Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by mvdtnz on Thursday April 24, 2025 @03:49PM (#43786780)
If you asked me for all the details of a Honda Civic and I gave you details about a Honda Odyssey you would not say I was correct in any way. You would say I was wrong.
Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by Workaccount2 on Thursday April 24, 2025 @04:13PM (#43787000)
The closer analogy is asking for the details of a Mazda Civic, and being given the details of a Honda Civic.
Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by krainboltgreene on Thursday April 24, 2025 @08:07PM (#43788865)
AKA wrong.
Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by StefanBatory on Friday April 25, 2025 @04:35AM (#43791507)
Or doing the best with bad question ;)
Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by krainboltgreene on Friday April 25, 2025 @11:41AM (#43794789)
If I said "Hey what's 0/5" answering "0" because the machine thinks I mean to type "10" is making the worst!
Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by pje on Thursday April 24, 2025 @03:13PM (#43786368)
I was using "bullshit" in the Technical Sense™, i.e. _indifferent to the truth of the output_.

[ChatGPT is bullshit ]: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10676-024-09775-5