Uhh then your knowledge is very limited because that is rather well documented. Also, why are you saying "savage" like an 18th century racist? Is that in fashion again?
But otherwise can you show, where this is documented? The natives tribes where I have some knowledge, don't force their kids to learn in the sense that is talked about here. No need to - the whole culture is about becoming a good hunter (for male individuals). So indeed lots of peer pressure, but no individual forcing.
No, by calling people "savages", a pejorative, based on their ethnicity.
Much like how it would be racist to call people "enslavers" based on their ethnicity, or "cotton pickers" based on their ethnicity.
So exactly what I wanted to talk about, when referencing "natural education".
I did not talk about any ethnicity at all.
Or were you simply trying to say, for you the term "savage" is strongly connected to racists and therefore inappropriate to use?
Besides, I called arbitary savage people savage. No concrete person that might feel insulted. And savage .. is not an insult in my bubble anyway btw.
Furthermore, if you didn't have a specific ethnicity in mind, then when you're going off about "natural education", what you're really saying here is "all groups of people that are part of a group I consider 'uncivilized' are the same".
Or alternately, if ethnicity isn't what you're using as your basis for calling groups of people and their children "uncivilized", what is?
Culture.
And this debate is equally fascinating and frustrating.
I simply spoke of generic nomadic uncivilised hunters.
And not at all in a bad way, just to illustrate a point. Because to my knowledge yes, nomadic hunting cultures do have similarities. Education seems to be one of those.
Feel free to provide counter examples.
Hunting in wilderness is a good example; so are sports, cooking, crafts, etc.
But unfortunately not all important activities that kids need to learn to become well adjusted adults in our modern societies fit those 2 criteria.
Point 2) can be hacked to an extent by modeling the behavior yourself - eg kids who see adults read books are more likely to want to read themselves.
I do, it requires being still in miserable conditions for a long time, being cold, wet, mosquitos, and then usually still no success, but frustration.
But to my knowledge, no savage kid is in need of being forced to learn it.
"children sense your true passions and naturally want to join in"
And that is my experience as well. But if you stop childrens curiosity out of limited time and patience "Be quite now!" - stop them from helping, because they are not a help in the beginning and you are faster on your own - then of course they won't just start enthusiastically some years later doing with motivation whatever it is, you define as their arbitary target now.