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Re:How to Force Your Kids to Do Math? by lukan on Sunday April 20, 2025 @04:33PM (#43746348)
Erm, english is not my first language, but I believe, savage stands for uncivilised person.

So exactly what I wanted to talk about, when referencing "natural education".

I did not talk about any ethnicity at all.

Re:How to Force Your Kids to Do Math? by guerrilla on Monday April 21, 2025 @10:19AM (#43752303)
It's considered super racist but also awkwardly old fashioned anyway even if it weren't just the former.
Re:How to Force Your Kids to Do Math? by lukan on Monday April 21, 2025 @10:44AM (#43752577)
Ok, seriously. I did not talk about any ethnicity at all. How exactly can I made a racist statement here?

Or were you simply trying to say, for you the term "savage" is strongly connected to racists and therefore inappropriate to use?

Re:How to Force Your Kids to Do Math? by guerrilla on Monday April 21, 2025 @11:04AM (#43752775)
Calling indigenous people "savage" in English is almost universally considered racist.
Re:How to Force Your Kids to Do Math? by lukan on Monday April 21, 2025 @08:22PM (#43757901)
Well, or just in your bubble?

Besides, I called arbitary savage people savage. No concrete person that might feel insulted. And savage .. is not an insult in my bubble anyway btw.

Re:How to Force Your Kids to Do Math? by guerrilla on Tuesday April 22, 2025 @12:07PM (#43763723)
Like you said, you're not a native English speaker.
Re:How to Force Your Kids to Do Math? by margalabargala on Monday April 21, 2025 @11:15AM (#43752892)
Talking about a specific ethnicity is not required to be racist in English. If a person were to use the word "Nazi" to describe any person who lives in an area that was Nazi-controlled in 1942, this would be roughly equivalent in terms of the connotation and in terms of the reasonable indignation the recipient might feel.

Furthermore, if you didn't have a specific ethnicity in mind, then when you're going off about "natural education", what you're really saying here is "all groups of people that are part of a group I consider 'uncivilized' are the same".

Or alternately, if ethnicity isn't what you're using as your basis for calling groups of people and their children "uncivilized", what is?

Re:How to Force Your Kids to Do Math? by lukan on Monday April 21, 2025 @08:19PM (#43757887)
"Or alternately, if ethnicity isn't what you're using as your basis for calling groups of people and their children "uncivilized", what is?"

Culture.

And this debate is equally fascinating and frustrating.

I simply spoke of generic nomadic uncivilised hunters.

And not at all in a bad way, just to illustrate a point. Because to my knowledge yes, nomadic hunting cultures do have similarities. Education seems to be one of those.

Feel free to provide counter examples.