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Re:Hydrogen vs. Battery Buses: A European Transit Reality Ch... by amsha on Saturday April 19, 2025 @03:09AM (#43734773)
There is a very to-the-point diagram called the Hydrogen Ladder [0] that classifies the usefulness of hydrogen by domain. The author makes a good case that, despite its versatility, hydrogen is almost always worse than some other clean technology for any use case. It’s hard to make, store, and use in a scalable/cheap way, and even generous estimates of future progress show a cost curve that requires subsidies basically forever.

Buses are classified as a “Most Uncompetitive” category. Electricity, whether wired or battery powered, is cheaper and easier to scale for the predicable everyday energy use of a city bus.

0: https://www.liebreich.com/hydrogen-ladder-version-5-0/

Re:Hydrogen vs. Battery Buses: A European Transit Reality Ch... by BlueTemplar on Saturday April 19, 2025 @04:17AM (#43735009)
Re:Hydrogen vs. Battery Buses: A European Transit Reality Ch... by NooneAtAll3 on Saturday April 19, 2025 @05:39AM (#43735316)
did the picture die or smth?

edit: no, even internet archive from a year ago shows no picture

Re:Hydrogen vs. Battery Buses: A European Transit Reality Ch... by mrspuratic on Saturday April 19, 2025 @09:13AM (#43736178)
"V5" article doesn't render (multiple browsers), try the older v4.1 version linked from it at the bottom (the faux "energy efficiency" graph).