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Re:Gemini 2.5 Flash by gambiting on Thursday April 17, 2025 @04:04PM (#43721561)
In my experience they are as dumb as a bag of bricks. The other day I asked "can you edit a picture if I upload one"

And it replied "sure, here is a picture of a photo editing prompt:"

https://g.co/gemini/share/5e298e7d7613

It's like "baby's first AI". The only good thing about it is that it's free.

Re:Gemini 2.5 Flash by JFingleton on Thursday April 17, 2025 @04:24PM (#43721806)
Prompt engineering is a thing.

Learning how to "speak llm" will give you great results. There's loads of online resources that will teach you. Think of it like learning a new API.

Re:Gemini 2.5 Flash by abletonlive on Thursday April 17, 2025 @08:34PM (#43723733)
for now. one would hope that this is a transitory moment in llms and that we can just use intuition in the future.
Re:Gemini 2.5 Flash by asadotzler on Thursday April 17, 2025 @08:36PM (#43723743)
LLM's whole thing is language. They make great translators and perform all kinds of other language tasks well, but somehow they can't interpret my English language prompts unless I go to school to learn how to speak LLM-flavored English?

WTF?

Re:Gemini 2.5 Flash by pplante on Thursday April 17, 2025 @09:24PM (#43724014)
I like to think of my interactions with an LLM like I'm explaining a request to a junior engineer or non engineering person. You have to be more verbose to someone who has zero context in order for them to execute a task correctly. The LLM only has the context you provided so they fail hard like a junior engineer would at a complicated task with no experience.
Re:Gemini 2.5 Flash by pplante on Thursday April 17, 2025 @09:24PM (#43724015)
I like to think of my interactions with an LLM like I'm explaining a request to a junior engineer or non engineering person. You have to be more verbose to someone who has zero context in order for them to execute a task correctly. The LLM only has the context you provided so they fail hard like a junior engineer would at a complicated task with no experience.
Re:Gemini 2.5 Flash by JFingleton on Friday April 18, 2025 @03:03AM (#43725722)
They are not humans - so yeah I can totally see having to "go to school" to learn how to interact with them.
Re:Gemini 2.5 Flash by int_19h on Friday April 18, 2025 @03:25AM (#43725824)
It's a natural language processor, yes. It's not AGI. It has numerous limitations that have to be recognized and worked around to make use of it. Doesn't mean that it's not useful, though.
Re:Gemini 2.5 Flash by th0ma5 on Friday April 18, 2025 @12:26PM (#43729573)
You have the right perspective. All of these people hand waving away the core issue here don't realize their own biases. Some of the best these things tout as much as 97% accuracy on tasks but if a person was completely randomly wrong at 3% of what they say you'd call an ambulance and no doctor would be able to diagnose their condition (the kinds of errors that people make with brain injuries are a major diagnostic tool and the kinds of errors are known for major types of common injuries ... Conversely there is no way to tell within an LLM system if any specific token is actually correct or not and its incorrectness is not even categorizable.)
Re:Gemini 2.5 Flash by gambiting on Friday April 18, 2025 @01:44AM (#43725348)
This was using Gemini on my phone - which both Samsung and Google advertise as "just talk to it".
Re:Gemini 2.5 Flash by ghurtado on Thursday April 17, 2025 @04:45PM (#43722047)
> in my experience they are as dumb as a bag of bricks

In my experience, anyone that describes LLMs using terms of actual human intelligence is bound to struggle using the tool.

Sometimes I wonder if these people enjoy feeling "smarter" when the LLM fails to give them what they want.

Re:Gemini 2.5 Flash by mdp2021 on Thursday April 17, 2025 @05:14PM (#43722280)
If those people are a subset of those who demand actual intelligence, they will very often feel frustrated.
Re:Gemini 2.5 Flash by nowittyusername on Thursday April 17, 2025 @04:47PM (#43722060)
Its because google hasn't realized the value of training the model on information about its own capabilities and metadata. My biggest pet peeve about google and the way they train these models.