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Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by Maxious on Wednesday April 16, 2025 @11:06PM (#43712709)
GoDaddy runs the root dns for .us
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by dawnerd on Thursday April 17, 2025 @12:13AM (#43713054)
Wait really? I use a .us domain for personal stuff, that.. makes me want to reconsider.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by NewJazz on Thursday April 17, 2025 @01:08AM (#43713296)
Also .us domains don't have who is privacy.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by gerdesj on Thursday April 17, 2025 @04:39AM (#43714365)
Please don't keep us in suspense ... who is privacy?
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by stwrzn on Thursday April 17, 2025 @04:46AM (#43714391)
They probably meant "whois privacy"[1] (without the space). Whois is basically a way to get information about a domain name (and many other stuff). Whois privacy just ensures that your address, name and other stuff is not public.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_privacy

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by imcritic on Thursday April 17, 2025 @05:27AM (#43714599)
They were probably joking when they asked that question.

Your reply doesn't seem sarcastic, so I take it you genuinely r/whoosh'ed (that's a reference to a subreddit about situations where someone is acting clueless).

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by stwrzn on Thursday April 17, 2025 @06:42AM (#43715026)
I know ;) Some people still value an explanation though.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by 0_gravitas on Thursday April 17, 2025 @11:07AM (#43718011)
Realistically, I don't think HN is the place for those kinds of jokes, which are best kept for reddit/twitter.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by kitchi on Thursday April 17, 2025 @12:41PM (#43719268)
Yeah I'm increasingly seeing these reddit-style low effort jokes on here, hopefully it's transient as folks acclimatize to the culture and customs here.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by lazide on Thursday April 17, 2025 @05:04AM (#43714493)
Yeah I found that out when I stupidly used my real contact info, and ended up getting spammed all to hell.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by talideon on Thursday April 17, 2025 @12:51PM (#43719398)
WHOIS privacy isn't a registry-level service. It's a registrar-level service.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by Kwpolska on Thursday April 17, 2025 @02:54PM (#43720775)
It’s both. Some domains do not allow WHOIS privacy (.us is one of them), some have it built-in, while most don’t care and registrars can fill in with fake data.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by AStonesThrow on Thursday April 17, 2025 @01:03AM (#43713275)
> GoDaddy runs the root dns for .us

.us is not the “root DNS” and your misidentification is muddying the waters.

.us is a TLD (Top-Level Domain) and more specifically, a ccTLD (cc = ‘Country Code’).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us

And the English Wikipedia says that its registrar is a subsidiary of GoDaddy named “Registry Services, LLC”.

The root DNS servers and registry are not run by GoDaddy or a subsidiary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_name_server

They are operated by important entities. Not companies that release sexy commercials featuring Danica Patrick. I keep getting confused between GoDaddy and Carl’s, Jr.

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by bawolff on Thursday April 17, 2025 @03:52AM (#43714150)
I think its clear from context they mean the .us TLD, and not the root zone, since obviously it wouldn't make sense to talk about the root zone for .us.

Its also very reasonable to use the more well-known name of the parent company to describe sonething done by its subsidary.

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by gjsman-1000 on Thursday April 17, 2025 @01:15AM (#43713324)
“It’s not run by GoDaddy, but a subsidiary of GoDaddy!”

Way to be so pedantic you miss the forest for the trees.

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by bjt on Thursday April 17, 2025 @01:49AM (#43713511)
.us is not a root name server. The root name servers are one more degree removed.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by kowabungalow on Thursday April 17, 2025 @04:05AM (#43714214)
Hence 'for .us'. The trouble with this form of pedantic is that the nicer way to interpret the misunderstanding is that the pedant is ignorant either of language or the structure of dns.

"He runs the Internet routers for our company." -> "Your company doesn't run the Internet" -> wtf?

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by fluidcruft on Thursday April 17, 2025 @07:07AM (#43715155)
It was a clarification that GoDaddy's ability to fuck everything up isn't quite as broad as suggested.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by jsjohnst on Thursday April 17, 2025 @08:13AM (#43715666)
It actually didn’t help at all. Read the part quoted again, OP specifically indicated .us, not “root zone”. The registrar for .us (GoDaddy) is in fact the “root dns for .us”
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by AStonesThrow on Thursday April 17, 2025 @09:57AM (#43716948)
> The registrar for .us (GoDaddy) is in fact the “root dns for .us”

“root DNS” has a very specific meaning, and you’ve misused it again.

Root DNS means ‘.’ and only ‘.’ There is no other “root”. That’s why it’s called “root” to be unambiguous.

In fact, in recent history, the root name servers use their own domain for convenient forward DNS resolution: ‘root-servers.net’ GoDaddy doesn’t run this either... Surprise, surprise!

> Your company doesn't run the Internet

Yeah well as a fragment, the statement makes sense, more or less, because there’s no “term of art” being abused there in your reductio ad absurdum.

Indeed you can run your own private root DNS, if you don’t want to interact with the real Internet, but your private roots are different from your private/hidden/split-horizon TLD. Another thing GoDaddy isn’t running. Did you know that GoDaddy doesn’t run news.ycombinator.com? Not even a subsidiary!

GoDaddy doesn’t run any “root DNS”, and they never have: period, full stop. [Pun intended]

Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by immibis on Friday April 18, 2025 @06:36AM (#43726719)
The whole point of a tree is that every node is the root of its subtree.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by jsjohnst on Saturday April 19, 2025 @12:32PM (#43737470)
Exactly!
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by fluidcruft on Thursday April 17, 2025 @10:16AM (#43717201)
The original clarification was perfectly fine to and arguing about the correction is reply-all-unsubscribe line noise. There was confusion, it error corrected, move on.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by jsjohnst on Saturday April 19, 2025 @12:35PM (#43737483)
Yet you chose to reply-all-unsubscribe line noise further. Maybe take your own advice and move on bro.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by fluidcruft on Saturday April 19, 2025 @05:45PM (#43739706)
Necromancing an over two-day old thread to ask someone to move on is a bit rich lol.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by jsjohnst on Saturday April 19, 2025 @08:39PM (#43740634)
Yet you still reply again! Guess you put zero value in your own advice, got it!
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by bo0tzz on Thursday April 17, 2025 @01:18AM (#43713341)
That's not what they said.
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by mentalgear on Thursday April 17, 2025 @02:08AM (#43713593)
GoDaddy is the rot of us domains, besides being rotten culturally as well
Re:Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the z... by unethical_ban on Thursday April 17, 2025 @10:46AM (#43717674)
I understood what you meant. I can understand why someone would want to clarify the terminology for those who don't know DNS well.