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Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by smj-edison on Wednesday April 16, 2025 @10:13PM (#43712430)
What do you do for backups? I'm just setting up an Emby instance with a 4 TB hard drive attached, but I'm worried it'll fail and take everything with it.
Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by chillfox on Thursday April 17, 2025 @12:05AM (#43713014)
In general I use Borg/Borgmatic with borgbase for backup, but movies are a little big, so for now I am just using zfs send/receive to keep a copy on a usb drive updated. Once I am done getting the encoding pipeline scripted (av1/opus/vtt) and the size goes down I will likely start sending it to borgbase as well, or maybe store a copy at my mums place.

I would prefer to use a cloud backup solution that supports zfs send/receive, but they are a bit pricy. zfs.rent seems like a nice solution, but not sure using a US location is a great idea.

Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by nickspacek on Wednesday April 16, 2025 @10:24PM (#43712490)
Look into Backblaze B2. Use rclone, or another backup tool that has S3 compatibility (though B2 API has some additional bells and whistles).

With rclone, you can also have a step to seamlessly encrypt the contents on the client side before sending to an external provider like B2.

I chose B2 because it is the most affordable option, but rclone supports many backends.

Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by switch007 on Thursday April 17, 2025 @06:25AM (#43714935)
Rclone is a great tool but it is not really a complete backup tool. Ie no snapshots.

You can use it to sync local snapshots or to a destination that does snapshots for example

Borg/restic are more complete solutions

Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by russelg on Wednesday April 16, 2025 @10:50PM (#43712628)
Is there really a point in backing up media? Unless you've ripped it yourself, I'm sure anything you have is easily obtainable again.
Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by al_borland on Wednesday April 16, 2025 @11:38PM (#43712886)
Some things are popular in the moment and very hard to come by 10-20 years later if they aren’t pretty popular. TV shows especially.

I’ve been considering buying some of those giant DVD lots that come up on Craigslist from time to time, or checking out flea markets for good deals.

With the way things are heading, one of my fears is I will get old and lose access to some of the shows are movies I loved in my youth. Licensing with streaming services are so fickle, and some others are removed or edited if they around found to be politically incorrect a decade or two after being made. I want to make sure I still have access to the original versions.

I do often wish I was one of those people who didn’t care, and could be happy with an iPad as my main computer, but it’s not in the cards for me.

Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by chillfox on Thursday April 17, 2025 @12:38AM (#43713174)
This, if you have some favorites or just movies that remind you of your youth, don't wait, go get them on dvd now. It gets harder and more expensive the longer you wait.

I have been hunting down the movies that I was watching when growing up and it's been a real mission, especially the really old ones that were made before I was born.

Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by chillfox on Thursday April 17, 2025 @12:08AM (#43713029)
My initial though was to not bother with backup, I still have the DVDs/Blu-rays if the HDD dies, but with the amount of time it takes to load in I changed my mind on that.
Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by dharmab on Wednesday April 16, 2025 @11:47PM (#43712938)
I have a lot of media from countries that are not the US. That kind of stuff tends to disappear from the internet and market.
Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by ThrowawayTestr on Wednesday April 16, 2025 @11:47PM (#43712936)
You'd think so but lost media is called that for a reason.
Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by sunflowerfly on Wednesday April 16, 2025 @11:31PM (#43712847)
A lot of my media are home movies.
Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by bigstrat2003 on Thursday April 17, 2025 @02:41AM (#43713771)
It's the other way around if anything. If you ripped it yourself, you still have the original media and can rip it again. If you sailed the seven seas, it may or may not be around if you go to look for it in the future.
Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by switch007 on Thursday April 17, 2025 @03:29AM (#43714019)
Yeah my TV/movies drive is just mergerfs of two drives. I view it as a cache but I'm lucky to have a gigabit connection.

Anything I want to keep I'll make a specific decision and move it to my RAID1 drive which is backed up off-site.

Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by dharmab on Thursday April 17, 2025 @12:52PM (#43719411)
Another one I realized - content is often edited in later versions. Two examples in my collection are the theatrical vs current versions of the Star Wars trilogy, and Top Gear, which had the original licensed music replaced by worse generic music in newer releases.
Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by l72 on Friday April 18, 2025 @09:44AM (#43728039)
This is a major issue for me for both video and music streaming platforms.

Do you know what version of the Abyss you are going to get? Is it that theatrical version that cut out a major plot point or the director's cut that includes it? What about Blade Runner? Do you want the original theatrical version or the super duper pointless extended Director's Cut? You don't get a choice with streaming, and you often don't even know what version it'll be.

I find this is even worse with music. Take the Beatles. Their songs have been remastered many times. Some of the remasters are good, and some of them ruin the music for me. But what version are you going to get? And, you may be listening to a good version today, but due to label negotiations, have it swapped out with a different version tomorrow.

I take a lot of pride in curating my personal media collection. I know these issues aren't important to everyone (and some people who might care are just unaware), but they are incredibly important to me.

Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by Semaphor on Wednesday April 16, 2025 @10:20PM (#43712475)
Not OP, but I use a PI with attached SSD as a backup server, and then save that stuff to Backblaze B2 as additional cloud backup.
Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by dharmab on Wednesday April 16, 2025 @10:49PM (#43712621)
Amazon S3 Deep Archive and rclone for < 4-5TB. Backblaze in a Windows VM or container for 5TB+.
Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by electriclove on Wednesday April 16, 2025 @11:06PM (#43712708)
Do you have a write up on how to do these?
Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by dharmab on Wednesday April 16, 2025 @11:49PM (#43712945)
No, I sat down for an evening and figured out rclone from their docs: https://rclone.org/docs/
Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by Beijinger on Thursday April 17, 2025 @01:21AM (#43713355)
How much is this a month? Opendrive.com is 100 USD a year for 10 TB
Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by dharmab on Thursday April 17, 2025 @10:02AM (#43717024)
You can look at their pricing (it depends on region).

With my usage I'm paying about $25 annually using S3. But if I ever need to full restore I'll be paying around $100 in data transfer fees.

Re:Jellyfin as a Spotify Alternative by Beijinger on Thursday April 17, 2025 @01:21AM (#43713352)
You need two HDD and an online backup (opendrive)