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Re:The problem with "vibe coding" by cco on Wednesday April 16, 2025 @01:12PM (#43707844)
No, though those concepts are of course related historically, I'm not confusing the two.

The hacker's ethos is about freedom of information, freedom of access (apropos to this video about vibe coding accessibility tools), community, collaboration and so on.

I've never seen or heard "elegance" associated with hackers, hacking, the hacking ethos etc. If I were to go further, elegance as it is used here has some anti-hacker connotations, i.e. it is a gatekeeping term to separate "true" coders from "amateurs" which is very anti-hacker.

Anyway, I don't think I'm conflating these terms, but it could be true that my understanding of the hacker ethos is wrong.

Re:The problem with "vibe coding" by int_19h on Wednesday April 16, 2025 @09:13PM (#43712078)
> I've never seen or heard "elegance" associated with hackers, hacking, the hacking ethos etc. If I were to go further, elegance as it is used here has some anti-hacker connotations, i.e. it is a gatekeeping term to separate "true" coders from "amateurs" which is very anti-hacker.

This is where I would strongly disagree. Are you familiar with shibboleths like 1337?