How did that work the last 10 times we said the things trump wants to do aren't gonna happen. He's saying he will so we should believe him

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/04/trump-t...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-going-run-third-term-ste...

None of the rest of the stuff happening was going to happen either, I’m sure.

Legal residents are being kidnapped and disappeared into foreign gulags but let’s turn down the temperature, right?

People keep saying this about everything the admin does before they do it. Pretending it won't happen won't stop it happening.

The real question is, who is left to stop it? The man is saying he's not joking about it. It's in line with his previous actions. They have actively refused to comply with court orders. They actively tried to reject the results of an election.

Why is it alarmist to say they may do the thing they want to do, and can do?

The number of times I've read people say "That's alarmist and will never happen", just to see that exact thing happen, is a lot.

It will definitely happen if everyone is as complacent as that. At this point this attitude is extremely hard to take serious: you're either not paying attention or you're not engaging in good faith.

> That's a little alarmist. It's not going to happen.

Serious question, when someone tells you what they want, why don't want you believe them?

It's openly being discussed and you think it's alarmist? No, we need to turn the temperature up and start taking people at their word.

If there was no track record of Trump doing things off the rails, we could turn down the temps. However, he very much does not, and quite the opposite. Him admitting they are "looking into it" on how to achieve a third term is quite unsettling. Especially with congress acquiescing to any whim he has as well as SCOTUS giving him permission to do whatevs. None of this instills confidence that there will be any push back.

The same people that came up with Project 2025 are the very people that would come up with plans for giving a third term. Those plans might seem ridiculous to some, but so did the alternate electors and the other things Trump has already tried before. The fact that no negative outcome came from any of those previous attempts just emboldens even further attempts.

Why do you consider it alarmist? Trump has repeatedly said he would do it, and that he's "not joking" about it.

Steve Bannon went on Bill Maher recently saying they are working on finding a way to make it happen. He was not joking. When challenged, Bannon's response was that Trump was already flooding the courts with cases.

I have had to listen to people like you for almost 10 years talk about things Trump said that were never going to happen. At what point do you just accept the evidence of your eyes and ears?

> That's a little alarmist. It's not going to happen.

For context, this is exactly what was said of _literally everything_ that has happened in Trump's current term.

Is it alarmist, or is it just alarming? And, if it is alarming, shouldn't we be taking it seriously, instead of hand-waving it away?

We need to start turning the temperature up or this country will be completely lost

This is where I was at, but am believing less and less as the parallels stack up.

I used to tell people to look at Russia if they wanted to see the Nazi script play out, and that this could never happen in the USA. Now I'm reminded of others that weren't taken seriously early enough.