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Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by MicahWedemeyer on Friday August 10, 2012 @11:29AM (#4366554)
I wish I could upvote this 100 times. I run a website in the tabletop RPG space, and there is an average of 1 new kickstarter per day for someone trying to fund their new game, new module, new idea, new iphone dice roller, new virtual tabletop, etc.

They all point to the massive successes, but very few seem to understand that failure is a definite possibility.

Thanks for putting this together and I'll definitely be talking about it on my podcast: http://hastepodcast.com We're always covering new kickstarter projects, and this is an invaluable tool for people who get all starry-eyed at crowdfunding.

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by acgourley on Friday August 10, 2012 @12:52PM (#4367011)
It seems like 75-80% of the card/board game projects are funded according to kickback.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by MicahWedemeyer on Friday August 10, 2012 @04:17PM (#4368032)
Yeah, that was surprising to me as well. Maybe the whole picture is rosier than I thought.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by osxwm on Friday August 10, 2012 @08:37PM (#4368979)
Kickback's corpus only goes back to June 2012.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by sch1705 on Friday August 10, 2012 @02:19PM (#4367444)
Agree, great resource. Also, cool podcast.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by blhack on Friday August 10, 2012 @01:07PM (#4367091)
"Success" should be more than just getting funded, it should be following through with the project.

I could "kickstart" a trip to the moon with no engineering knowledge, and a budget of $5000, and by this metric I would be "successful". Probably within an hour if I properly attached the ideas of unseating a major tech company, and using android to do it. Also video games.

That doesn't mean I went to the moon. It means I successfully got $5000 out of people.

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by nimblegorilla on Friday August 10, 2012 @01:24PM (#4367185)
I think this tool is geared to people who want to create kickstarter projects that are successfully funded. It isn't geared to people trying to figure out which projects will end up delivering.

Success in the context of Kickstarter means you raised your money. Just like a successful round of venture funding means the company was able to raise money (and not necessarily deliver a real product).

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by kibibyte on Friday August 10, 2012 @01:51PM (#4367305)
But how would you define "success"? For example, let's say that Ouya delivers the consoles to those who funded the project, but after a year or two, it dies out from lack of developer interest. Would you define that as a "success" because it delivered, or would you call it a "failure" because it died out?

For Kickstarter projects, I think it's better we use more precise terms, like "successfully funded", rather than the vague "successful".

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by its_so_on on Friday August 10, 2012 @01:32PM (#4367223)
>I could "kickstart" a trip to the moon with no engineering knowledge, and a budget of $5000, and by this metric I would be "successful". Probably within an hour if I properly attached the ideas of unseating a major tech company, and using android to do it. Also video games."

BLHack: Your idea is interesting, but a bit vague. Could you send a brief summary of the project? Please find enclosed $500k just in case you need a seed for you know whatev. Looking forward to more: your new board.

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by blhack on Friday August 10, 2012 @02:01PM (#4367358)
Here's a really nice computer render of the moon. Also, we filmed this in a coffee shop and know how to use shallow depth of field to demonstrate to you that we KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING!
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by its_so_on on Saturday August 11, 2012 @07:21AM (#4369882)
BLHack:

Thanks - couple of thoughts here. You demonstrate good potential to disrupt some big companies with the coffee shop video. But you need a lot more momentum, so please hold off on coffee shop work until series A.

I would also have loved to share the render with my niece's dog, who's really crazy about the moon, but I couldn't find any social buttons. This takes precedence.

I'd like to introduce you to a social media director who would be a very good fit (cc). Please set up an interview.

Thanks,

Your board.

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by brechin on Friday August 10, 2012 @12:39PM (#4366942)
This site answers a lot of questions for a lot of people. It's a really great site that closely mirrors the KS design. Nice work!

Things I'd like to see added:

Length of campaign, also search by launch/end date

Search funding goal with upper/lower constraints, not just a "close to $#"

Search success by % of goal reached or $ pledged (again, with upper/lower bounds).

# of backers

# of updates posted

An API for access to the data, so others can do analytics on it

Having scraping experience myself, I'd be happy to contribute code to accomplish some of these if you're interested in outside contributors.

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by noinput on Friday August 10, 2012 @12:58PM (#4367047)
Would love to see an option as well if the campaign included a video
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by Smudge on Friday August 10, 2012 @12:19PM (#4366830)
As soon as I realized how difficult it was to find a comprehensive list of failed Kickstarter projects, I frantically began building a private database of them so that I have the data if I ever need it. Information on failed and cancelled projects is really quite valuable for anyone wanting to launch a successful one.

If I'd gotten around to it, I might have tried to build something like the KickBack Machine, but seeing as it has already been done, I'll leave the job to Dan Misener. (And he's done an excellent job.)

Edit: seems I was wrong about the launch date being hard to find.

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by brechin on Friday August 10, 2012 @12:25PM (#4366861)
The launch date is on the page, in a list item, like this: <li class="posted"> <b>Launched:</b> Jun 18, 2012 </li>
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by misener on Friday August 10, 2012 @02:40PM (#4367552)
Indeed, the launch date is there, but it's only accurate to the day. To figure out the actual launch date+time, you need to look at the deadline and subtract the project duration, both of which can be found in this element on each page:

<span data-duration="X" data-end_time="Y" id="project_duration_data">

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by Smudge on Friday August 10, 2012 @12:39PM (#4366936)
Wow, thanks. Was this always there, or did it come as part of the recent redesign? I remember searching the source of the previous project pages for anything resembling what should have been a launch date, and couldn't find it anywhere. Maybe at the time I was just delirious.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by brechin on Friday August 10, 2012 @12:42PM (#4366960)
Not sure how long it's been there, but I feel like it's not a super-recent addition. I never really paid much attention to the launch dates.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by danielna on Friday August 10, 2012 @10:00AM (#4366170)
I love how even simple adjustments can make a twitter-bootstrap site appear more personalized. Maybe it's the black bar, but I tend to groan a little bit whenever I see it on new sites I come across. This design, on the other hand, I really like. Nice work!
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by prezjordan on Friday August 10, 2012 @10:11AM (#4366214)
I agree wholeheartedly. Changing the top banner and buttons (the buttons are the first thing I notice) really personalize the site. Great job on using Bootstrap as its intended to be used.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by sidwyn on Friday August 10, 2012 @10:35AM (#4366322)
Right now the 'Successful' word is glaring at me for each project [0]. I'd like to see the project title instead of whether it was successful or not. Try swapping the word 'Successful' with the project title?

[0]http://www.thekickbackmachine.com/browse/successful/

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by misener on Friday August 10, 2012 @10:39AM (#4366342)
Solid suggestion. I suppose that the length and colour of the progress bar is probably enough to signal whether a project was successful or not. Thanks.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by ChrisNorstrom on Friday August 10, 2012 @10:19PM (#4369184)
Woah.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/818526066/the-grassroots...

Hollywood Actor Jason Biggs (from American Pie) had his $5,000 goal kickstarter campaign FAIL. F.A.I.L. And he's in Hollywood. People know him. He knows people. Wow.

I guess this goes to show that success is never guarenteed. One cannot predict future success based on past success, or future failure based on past failure. It also makes me feel really good about my own kickstarter campaign failing.

Wow this made my day. Poor guy though, it must have been a huge "wtf" for him.

edit: Changed "oh my god" to "woah" to avoid getting any more downvotes. As an atheist I'm curious to know weather it came from offended christians or vengeful atheists.

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by miahi on Saturday August 11, 2012 @02:56AM (#4369619)
If it's not entertaining it fails. His project is boring. Probably 99.9% of the page's visitors couldn't keep their eyes open to read it to the end.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by mwilcox on Saturday August 11, 2012 @03:26AM (#4369663)
I watched the whole video and I'm still not sure what it's about.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by MengYuanLong on Saturday August 11, 2012 @11:02AM (#4370219)
Seconded. His Kickstarter video and copy seemed like a stream of thought joke. Why should I give a rich Hollywood actor money when I can give a well planned and spoken individual the same funds.

Further, it seems pretty unlikely that a person ought to make a movie about how to lead a grassroots campaign if they can't even lead one for their own project.

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by waterlesscloud on Friday August 10, 2012 @10:26PM (#4369196)
That's odd. If nothing else, his wife has a huge social media following. Doesn't seem like he'd have trouble getting the word out if he wanted to.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by ecmendenhall on Friday August 10, 2012 @02:36PM (#4367542)
This is a great tool! Along with Kicktraq (http://kicktraq.com/) and Kicksaver (http://www.kicksaver.net/ - I made this a while ago), there are now third party projects like this for every stage of a potential campaign, from the planning stages to last-minute rescues.

We're all lucky that Kickstarter's pages are so pleasant to scrape.

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by iblaine on Friday August 10, 2012 @03:09PM (#4367698)
Seems like unsuccessful projects get burried. Cancelled ones are quietly swept away. Case in point is glospex. One day the project was there, the next day it was not. No word...maybe kickstarter is too tiny to have a customer service department...maybe they want the unsuccessful projects to remain unseen.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by tsieling on Friday August 10, 2012 @09:42AM (#4366078)
I like this. Simple and focussed, and invaluable to anyone willing to learn from what worked and didn't for others.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by ColinDabritz on Friday August 10, 2012 @01:10PM (#4367110)
What would be incredibly useful to me is a 'follow-through' indicator for the funded projects. When I read the link I thought 'success' was going to be "funded and delivered on promises".

It would clearly take a lot more work to track, but I could see a Politifact promise-o-meter style 'Delivery Status' with simple indicators like 'In Progress', 'Failed', 'Partial', 'Late', and 'Delivered' or similar.

Also for the funding side, having simple counts on each category and % funded for a given filter would be very informative.

Excellent and clear presentation overall though, very useful as it stands!

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by DuoSRX on Friday August 10, 2012 @01:12PM (#4367121)
I replied the same thing to another post, but these stats are already available on KS. http://www.kickstarter.com/help/stats
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by ColinDabritz on Friday August 10, 2012 @01:16PM (#4367148)
For the % stats regarding funding it's nice to have Kickstarter's page, but integrating that data with rest of the information on the linked page could help inform your decision making.

For the follow-up, I didn't see anything on Kickstarter about stats.

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by misener on Friday August 10, 2012 @02:46PM (#4367584)
Indeed, the aggregate numbers are there, but it's extremely difficult to find individual examples of success/failure by category or goal. That's the point of TKBM.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by sequoia on Friday August 10, 2012 @12:57PM (#4367038)
Looking thru http://www.thekickbackmachine.com/browse/all/ it appears the projects are overwhelmingly successful. In the first 163 project, just under 75% were successful. Am I interpreting this incorrectly, or are projects funded successfully an overwhelming majority of the time?

    jQuery('h2:contains("Successful")', 'div.caption').length; //successful
    jQuery('h2:contains("Unsuccessful")', 'div.caption').length; //unsuccessful
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by misener on Friday August 10, 2012 @02:43PM (#4367564)
According to my numbers, since mid-June 2012, the overall success rate for all projects in all categories has been ~72%. Much higher than Kickstarter's all-time success rate of ~44%. Successes seem to be increasing.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by jjb123 on Friday August 10, 2012 @05:41PM (#4368414)
But does this stat of ~72% success rate (28% failure rate) include canceled/removed projects, which happens quite often after a failed attempt?
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by nordicnomad82 on Friday August 10, 2012 @04:51PM (#4368188)
I had a friend who started something similar one night when he was drinking. But this is much cleaner looking. ;)

I find digging into stats and broad psychological trends relating to human behavior kind of exciting on one level and depressing on another. From one perspective you can really increase your likelihood of getting people to do what you want with small tricks and tweaks. But then you realize that we're all just a bunch of manipulate-able sheep. :/

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by jkbr on Friday August 10, 2012 @11:17AM (#4366503)
For macro-level research, it would be useful if every category and filtered view featured accumulated stats (e.g., # of projects/successes/failures).
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by acgourley on Friday August 10, 2012 @12:52PM (#4367013)
That is a shockingly high success rate. It seems like 75% when I would have guessed 20%
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by DuoSRX on Friday August 10, 2012 @01:04PM (#4367081)
The success rate is actually 44%. You can find the stats directly on Kickstarter. http://www.kickstarter.com/help/stats
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by misener on Friday August 10, 2012 @02:44PM (#4367577)
It's an incomplete list. TKBM has only been tracking projects that ended since mid-June 2012.

According to my numbers, since mid-June 2012, the overall success rate for all projects in all categories has been ~72%. Much higher than Kickstarter's all-time success rate of ~44%.

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by waterlesscloud on Friday August 10, 2012 @10:29PM (#4369202)
I've been suspecting their success rate might go up as more people become comfortable with the idea. A lot of small projects should be very do-able if their community is familiar with kickstarter.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by Eduardo3rd on Friday August 10, 2012 @02:26PM (#4367479)
Same here. I'm wondering if this is maybe an incomplete list. There have to be more than three failed open source hardware projects out there.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by danso on Friday August 10, 2012 @02:50PM (#4367607)
Very cool...what I would like to see is duration of fundraising, if you were able to collect this?

What I mean is to have that in the current view...seems more useful than how many days ago it ended?

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by fudged71 on Friday August 10, 2012 @03:11PM (#4367710)
That would be really interesting. I'd like to see specific categories that are more successful now than they previously were, for example. Or correlate that success of specific projects based on how long ago they were.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by misener on Friday August 10, 2012 @03:29PM (#4367805)
As requested: https://www.google.com/fusiontables/DataSource?docid=1ecu_DI...

The KickBack Machine dumps lots of data into this Fusion Table on an ongoing basis. Please feel free to slice and dice it however you like.

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by z2600 on Friday August 10, 2012 @10:46AM (#4366370)
Great resource. Would it be possible to have search functionality?
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by misener on Friday August 10, 2012 @10:48AM (#4366379)
Search is on the roadmap, for sure. That said, Kickstarter's existing search function performs very well.

The primary purpose of TKBM is to collect Kickstarter projects together by outcome (success/failure) and goal -- two things that Kickstarter's site doesn't make easy.

Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by thehodge on Friday August 10, 2012 @02:46PM (#4367586)
Am I the only one who finds kickstarter search so frustrating? all I want to find is all the technology products orders by recently added.. am I missing something blatant
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by vegasbrianc on Friday August 10, 2012 @11:02AM (#4366450)
I also would like to see search added. Love the concept and will keep an eye on it.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by brador on Friday August 10, 2012 @02:43PM (#4367570)
Any chance of kickstarter releasing a dump of this so we can all have a play? Even at just a month of data it'll stop us all scraping the hell out of the site.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by misener on Friday August 10, 2012 @03:31PM (#4367815)
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by dwwoelfel on Friday August 10, 2012 @04:17PM (#4368031)
How do you get the pids?
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by zalew on Friday August 10, 2012 @09:25AM (#4366025)
is there a way to check which of the 'successful' were actually built, not only backed?
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by misener on Friday August 10, 2012 @09:31AM (#4366049)
Right now, it only tracks funding, not follow-through.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by unimpressive on Friday August 10, 2012 @11:15AM (#4366496)
Follow through would be an amazing feature. It would start giving us real data about the success rate of crowdfunding.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by pfisch on Friday August 10, 2012 @08:57PM (#4369012)
This is the best thing I have ever seen on hacker news.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by phreanix on Friday August 10, 2012 @10:36AM (#4366324)
Hmm, is an "events" category possible?
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by misener on Friday August 10, 2012 @10:41AM (#4366346)
Not sure what you mean by this? What would be in the "events" category? Currently, the category list mirrors Kickstarter's own.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by sritch on Friday August 10, 2012 @01:22PM (#4367177)
You have a great radio voice.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by misener on Friday August 10, 2012 @02:46PM (#4367589)
That's kind of you to say. Radio's my day job.
Re:Show HN: See Kickstarter successes and failures by kleiba on Friday August 10, 2012 @10:34PM (#4369210)
My advice: drop the "the".