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Re:When the physicists need burner phones, that's when you k... by stevenAthompson on Saturday March 29, 2025 @03:43PM (#43518059)
It is incredibly relevant.

Thomas Payne published "Common Sense" anonymously, and had that not happened the United States may not exist. It is a relatively obvious fact that there can be no freedom of speech without anonymous speech. Especially in the face of tyranny.

Re:When the physicists need burner phones, that's when you k... by javajosh on Saturday March 29, 2025 @04:10PM (#43518290)
I agree that anonymous speech is an important right in free societies. A novel attack on such a right in the Internet Age is to allow so much speech, anonymous or otherwise, ensure that most of it of is of very low quality, that thoughtful criticisms are ignored or, more accurately, overlooked. A related attack is to "flood the zone with shit", low-quality but emotionally resonant criticisms of speech, generated by hired humans and/or software. (Anecdotally most readers will see any coherent pushback as a signal about the OP's veracity.)
Re:When the physicists need burner phones, that's when you k... by kmeisthax on Saturday March 29, 2025 @04:27PM (#43518441)
"Censorship through free speech", in other words.
Re:When the physicists need burner phones, that's when you k... by lovich on Saturday March 29, 2025 @04:46PM (#43518587)
It’s just a special case of signal jamming.

If you add enough random energy to any channel, it becomes impossible to filter signal from noise

Re:When the physicists need burner phones, that's when you k... by kragen on Saturday March 29, 2025 @05:03PM (#43518723)
This is what Shannon disproved in the paper that founded information theory. It never becomes impossible, even at a fixed signal power; the noise reduces the channel capacity, but never to zero.

https://people.math.harvard.edu/~ctm/home/text/others/shanno...

Re:When the physicists need burner phones, that's when you k... by lovich on Saturday March 29, 2025 @05:33PM (#43518911)
Ok, I’ll retract my statement from “impossible” to “what the layman would refer to as impossible when you take into account resource constraints”
Re:When the physicists need burner phones, that's when you k... by kragen on Saturday March 29, 2025 @06:49PM (#43519436)
The layman, almost by definition, would refer to most things as impossible until he sees them done; then he takes them for granted because he has no idea how difficult they were. His opinion about the difficulty or resource requirements of any feat is worthless.
Re:When the physicists need burner phones, that's when you k... by lovich on Saturday March 29, 2025 @06:59PM (#43519500)
I disagree
Re:When the physicists need burner phones, that's when you k... by javajosh on Saturday March 29, 2025 @05:41PM (#43518968)
Yes. I'd be curious to know how resistance movements deal with this problem in other regimes. How do (did?) Navalny or İmamoğlu supporters organize, for example? Is it simply Telegram & Signal? How does one spread a message to the public under such a regime, via pamphlets? Does it work to share "anonymously" on a foreign-hosted platform? Asking for a friend.
Re:When the physicists need burner phones, that's when you k... by lovich on Sunday March 30, 2025 @02:09AM (#43521768)
Navalny died and İmamoğlu is in prison right? I feel like a lot of people’s hesitation with recognizing the new world is recognizing that it’s effective even if it’s distasteful.

If you(the royal you) disagree, then please point out the last pro democracy advocate who didn’t get demolished by their local authoritarian leader in the past 30 years

Re:When the physicists need burner phones, that's when you k... by whatshisface on Saturday March 29, 2025 @04:43PM (#43518559)
By not relevant, I mean that while you can use incentives to design a fair society that encourages other people to do right, that's not how you can decide what to do for yourself when the environment for the purposes of an individual choice has already been determined.