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Re:I won't connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud by darkwater on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @03:19AM (#43468739)
> The current generation went through a round of cost cutting and added WiFi bullshit to everything

I'm no dishwasher expert and I guess they did their homework but over a period of 10 years, how can be cheaper to remove the local functionality, add a wifi chip, redo the manuals, and pay for the datacenter costs?

Re:I won't connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud by harvey9 on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @04:14AM (#43468994)
I would guess they used cheaper materials for the moving parts and case.
Re:I won't connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud by account42 on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @08:26AM (#43470388)
It's probably more that they add the online features because some users want them and then think if they already have that they can save some cents on buttons.

Also I seriously doubt the hosting costs are more than a rounding error for a multiple-hundred-dollar appliance.

Re:I won't connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud by uberman on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @08:55AM (#43470616)
It's cheaper because in the end they sell your data.
Re:I won't connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud by darkwater on Wednesday March 26, 2025 @04:14AM (#43479958)
> Also I seriously doubt the hosting costs are more than a rounding error for a multiple-hundred-dollar appliance.

Ok but...

> then think if they already have that they can save some cents on buttons.

Isn't this a rounding error as well, on a >500$ appliance?

How can we have at the same time dishwashers with no 7-segments display because it's too expensive and other brands with wifi on every model? It cannot be just for costs, there ought to be marketing reasons behind this.

Re:I won't connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud by Gibbon1 on Wednesday March 26, 2025 @04:22AM (#43479993)
So I have the same model. And night before last instead of starting. It bleeped and flashed a row of LED's. And that's it. It doesn't have an LED display to show error codes. Pulled it out, nothing seems wrong. But I have no idea what it's upset about.
Re:I won't connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud by inferiorhuman on Sunday March 30, 2025 @07:04PM (#43528678)
Ah, I meant cost cutting elsewhere. For instance the Bosch dishwasher I have came with two utensil holders, no WiFi, and real buttons. The newer versions come with one utensil holder, fake buttons, and WiFi.