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Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by UncleMeat on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:04PM (#43463742)
Not just days - months.

We saw A1 headlines for months about Clinton's emails. Often daily.

Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by bediger4000 on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:28PM (#43463992)
Looks to me like that intensity of coverage was deliberate on the part of NYT. Insane Trump screw ups like this get nowhere near the amount of articles.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by tptacek on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:37PM (#43464089)
Who cares? To a first approximation everybody who reads the NYT (really: any newspaper) opposes Trump. People obsess about NYT coverage decisions, but the NYT has approximately zero political influence in 2025. If education and engagement depolarize, that could change, but it hasn't yet.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by UncleMeat on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:47PM (#43464184)
The NYT amplifying a story in a ridiculous manner can convince democrats to stay home because "ugh, they are all crooks."
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by tptacek on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:56PM (#43464268)
That's not what happened in the last election; in fact, the Democrats did marginally better with engaged voters. Anyways, I'm just saying, there's not much point to doing kremlinology about what the NYT is reporting.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by UncleMeat on Monday March 24, 2025 @03:38PM (#43464669)
The "but her emails" jokes in this context are all about the 2016 election.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by egberts1 on Monday March 24, 2025 @07:01PM (#43466310)
Democrats provided a negative 6,265,888 votes for better engagement in Election 2024 than in 2020.

But Democrat engagement was somehow negative marginally higher, at huge expense by independent voters.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250114165808/https://projects....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_president...

Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by tptacek on Monday March 24, 2025 @09:37PM (#43467287)
"Democrats" are not a coherent, monolithic entity. But we have data on which cohorts of that coalition did and didn't turn out.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by egberts1 on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @09:58AM (#43471398)
As ABC tried to subsume 538 out of existance for its accurate breakdown of coalitions.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by s1artibartfast on Monday March 24, 2025 @03:56PM (#43464799)
IMO, political influence can be discussed in terms of directionality and substance, and both are relevant.

Directionality is short term and simplistic, Does it change how someone will vote or poll.

Substance explains why they vote or poll, and is relevant because it has downstream consequences in an evolving world.

Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by llm_nerd on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:37PM (#43464087)
It's extraordinary to me when anyone claims that the "MSM" is left leaning. If it was, Trump's hubris, criminality, ignorance, senility, self-dealing grift and myopia would yield an unending series of "WTF?" type headlines. Instead they sane wash it.

The guy is sending plane loads of who-knows-who to a country that they have no association with, based upon zero charges or due process, where they are imprisoned into basically slavery. This is so outrageously beyond the pale illegal, both in US and international law, that it is just mind-blowing, but it's just another day. Good god. Despotic, banana-republic autocrat behaviour is now just...accepted.

I saw a complaint by a right wing figure noting the increased number of injunctions Trump has received versus prior presidents. Instead of rationally thinking "gosh...maybe he shouldn't contravene the constitution and/or break laws so frequently", they actually think it's unfair and needs to be balanced. It's a shocking collapse of norms or reason.

It is incredibly dark times.

Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @09:54AM (#43471349)
> It's extraordinary to me when anyone claims that the "MSM" is left leaning.

It’s not that weird when you consider where they get that opinion.