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Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by llm_nerd on Monday March 24, 2025 @01:38PM (#43463492)
This is an insane story demonstrating extraordinary incompetence, not to mention revealing some rather comical beliefs about American exceptionalism.

It's on the bottom of the third page, pushed down by flags. During any other administration, such a disastrously, criminally incompetent use of technology would have been top of the front page for days, but this administration is so cosmically incompetent that pointing it out is "partisan" now. Everyone is just tired of people commenting on the fact that this criminal bunch of Fox News host miscreants clearly have zero idea what they're doing.

Also...but her emails!

Who do you think will sponsor the Egg roll? They just need to move the Tesla infomercial out of the way, and maybe Trump can feature some of his garbage shitcoin crypto.

Jesus Christ. What a fallen idiocracy.

Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by UncleMeat on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:04PM (#43463742)
Not just days - months.

We saw A1 headlines for months about Clinton's emails. Often daily.

Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by bediger4000 on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:28PM (#43463992)
Looks to me like that intensity of coverage was deliberate on the part of NYT. Insane Trump screw ups like this get nowhere near the amount of articles.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by tptacek on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:37PM (#43464089)
Who cares? To a first approximation everybody who reads the NYT (really: any newspaper) opposes Trump. People obsess about NYT coverage decisions, but the NYT has approximately zero political influence in 2025. If education and engagement depolarize, that could change, but it hasn't yet.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by UncleMeat on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:47PM (#43464184)
The NYT amplifying a story in a ridiculous manner can convince democrats to stay home because "ugh, they are all crooks."
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by tptacek on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:56PM (#43464268)
That's not what happened in the last election; in fact, the Democrats did marginally better with engaged voters. Anyways, I'm just saying, there's not much point to doing kremlinology about what the NYT is reporting.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by UncleMeat on Monday March 24, 2025 @03:38PM (#43464669)
The "but her emails" jokes in this context are all about the 2016 election.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by egberts1 on Monday March 24, 2025 @07:01PM (#43466310)
Democrats provided a negative 6,265,888 votes for better engagement in Election 2024 than in 2020.

But Democrat engagement was somehow negative marginally higher, at huge expense by independent voters.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250114165808/https://projects....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_president...

Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by tptacek on Monday March 24, 2025 @09:37PM (#43467287)
"Democrats" are not a coherent, monolithic entity. But we have data on which cohorts of that coalition did and didn't turn out.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by egberts1 on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @09:58AM (#43471398)
As ABC tried to subsume 538 out of existance for its accurate breakdown of coalitions.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by s1artibartfast on Monday March 24, 2025 @03:56PM (#43464799)
IMO, political influence can be discussed in terms of directionality and substance, and both are relevant.

Directionality is short term and simplistic, Does it change how someone will vote or poll.

Substance explains why they vote or poll, and is relevant because it has downstream consequences in an evolving world.

Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by llm_nerd on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:37PM (#43464087)
It's extraordinary to me when anyone claims that the "MSM" is left leaning. If it was, Trump's hubris, criminality, ignorance, senility, self-dealing grift and myopia would yield an unending series of "WTF?" type headlines. Instead they sane wash it.

The guy is sending plane loads of who-knows-who to a country that they have no association with, based upon zero charges or due process, where they are imprisoned into basically slavery. This is so outrageously beyond the pale illegal, both in US and international law, that it is just mind-blowing, but it's just another day. Good god. Despotic, banana-republic autocrat behaviour is now just...accepted.

I saw a complaint by a right wing figure noting the increased number of injunctions Trump has received versus prior presidents. Instead of rationally thinking "gosh...maybe he shouldn't contravene the constitution and/or break laws so frequently", they actually think it's unfair and needs to be balanced. It's a shocking collapse of norms or reason.

It is incredibly dark times.

Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @09:54AM (#43471349)
> It's extraordinary to me when anyone claims that the "MSM" is left leaning.

It’s not that weird when you consider where they get that opinion.

Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by bloopernova on Monday March 24, 2025 @03:09PM (#43464414)
Use https://news.ycombinator.com/active as your starting point. It's not linked from the front page.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by ttyprintk on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @09:09AM (#43470749)
Thanks, and also thanks to moderators for offering it
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by otterley on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:36PM (#43464081)
The top story on Fox News right now is "Trump allies move to prevent 'activist judges' from overstepping presidential authority." This story isn't even on the front page.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by vwcx on Monday March 24, 2025 @03:55PM (#43464797)
To be fair, it broke as an exclusive to the Atlantic about 180 minutes ago. The NYT now has it "above the fold" on their front page. Unlike a story coming directly from a public source, it sometimes takes a bit longer to spin up re-reporting on another outlet's scoop like this.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by otterley on Monday March 24, 2025 @03:57PM (#43464815)
Good point. It's now the top story on WSJ as well.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by alistairSH on Monday March 24, 2025 @08:47PM (#43466999)
And FoxNews has the Hegseth “nuh uh, no we didn’t” statement above the fold and the actual news in small print. Le Sigh.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by dekhn on Monday March 24, 2025 @08:34PM (#43466924)
It was a couple hours later (on Fox).
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by notadoomer236 on Monday March 24, 2025 @09:33PM (#43467264)
They use signal. They added the wrong person to the chat. Oh well. There’s no real disaster here. No real operational details exposed. Just some politicking that surprises no one.
Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by ipython on Monday March 24, 2025 @09:42PM (#43467316)
Did you read TFA? Operational details were shared on the chat but the journalist, out of concern for exactly what you describe, redacted those details from his report.