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Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by tptacek on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:37PM (#43464089)
Who cares? To a first approximation everybody who reads the NYT (really: any newspaper) opposes Trump. People obsess about NYT coverage decisions, but the NYT has approximately zero political influence in 2025. If education and engagement depolarize, that could change, but it hasn't yet.
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Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by UncleMeat on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:47PM (#43464184)
The NYT amplifying a story in a ridiculous manner can convince democrats to stay home because "ugh, they are all crooks."
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Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by tptacek on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:56PM (#43464268)
That's not what happened in the last election; in fact, the Democrats did marginally better with engaged voters. Anyways, I'm just saying, there's not much point to doing kremlinology about what the NYT is reporting.
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Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by UncleMeat on Monday March 24, 2025 @03:38PM (#43464669)
The "but her emails" jokes in this context are all about the 2016 election.
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Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by egberts1 on Monday March 24, 2025 @07:01PM (#43466310)
Democrats provided a negative 6,265,888 votes for better engagement in Election 2024 than in 2020.

But Democrat engagement was somehow negative marginally higher, at huge expense by independent voters.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250114165808/https://projects....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_president...

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Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by tptacek on Monday March 24, 2025 @09:37PM (#43467287)
"Democrats" are not a coherent, monolithic entity. But we have data on which cohorts of that coalition did and didn't turn out.
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Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by egberts1 on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @09:58AM (#43471398)
As ABC tried to subsume 538 out of existance for its accurate breakdown of coalitions.
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Re:The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war p... by s1artibartfast on Monday March 24, 2025 @03:56PM (#43464799)
IMO, political influence can be discussed in terms of directionality and substance, and both are relevant.

Directionality is short term and simplistic, Does it change how someone will vote or poll.

Substance explains why they vote or poll, and is relevant because it has downstream consequences in an evolving world.

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