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Re:English Scientists Develop Fast, High-Quality AI Weather ... by NitpickLawyer on Monday March 24, 2025 @04:33AM (#43458611)
> Are all the inputs (from buoys, weather balloons, stations, etc) from decades of history stored

I was also thinking about smartphones. They have barometric data, and while it might vary from phone to phone, I'm sure something like a kalman filter + historic data could do something there.

Think about gathering all the data from "stationary" phones, correlate that with weather sat data, and with real "ground truth" weather stations, and then go back 30 - 60 min / a day, and see what comes out.

Re:English Scientists Develop Fast, High-Quality AI Weather ... by Havoc on Monday March 24, 2025 @07:24AM (#43459662)
>smartphones. They have barometric data

For anyone else having a TIL moment: It's apparently for vertical position and supposedly sub meter accurate. o_O

Re:English Scientists Develop Fast, High-Quality AI Weather ... by p_l on Monday March 24, 2025 @08:13AM (#43460063)
Depends on smartphone (and smartwatches). Not all have it, at times it disappeared from brands that had it earlier.

The smartwatch series I use explicitly include it because it's essentially the "all in one" version in a series that had smartwatches designed for aircraft use (including military versions where they serve as backup cabin pressure warning, apparently)

Re:English Scientists Develop Fast, High-Quality AI Weather ... by usrusr on Monday March 24, 2025 @09:02AM (#43460595)
Smartwatches include barometers because they enable elevation measurement far more accurate than than GNSS (GPS and GPS-alikes, they tend to be noticeably less accurate in the vertical than in the horizontal). In particular when both are combined: barometry for high frequency changes (going up a hill) continuously calibrated against a long term average of the GNSS elevation to filter out low frequency changes in barometry (weather influence).

But back to device could weather observation, this would require continuous GNSS, devices don't do that (network location would not be good enough).

Re:English Scientists Develop Fast, High-Quality AI Weather ... by orion138 on Monday March 24, 2025 @08:51AM (#43460487)
Re:English Scientists Develop Fast, High-Quality AI Weather ... by xgulfie on Monday March 24, 2025 @10:22AM (#43461448)
I'm still grumpy about apple buying and shuttering darksky
Re:English Scientists Develop Fast, High-Quality AI Weather ... by thatcat on Monday March 24, 2025 @02:52PM (#43464224)
They stopped using it during later years.
Re:English Scientists Develop Fast, High-Quality AI Weather ... by counters on Monday March 24, 2025 @06:23PM (#43466026)
Not really; it was a gimmick. They used standard forecast post-processing techniques to bias correct global/regional weather models. There is virtually no evidence they actually used device data in this process.
Re:English Scientists Develop Fast, High-Quality AI Weather ... by phillipseamore on Monday March 24, 2025 @11:40AM (#43462304)
"Collecting and processing of barometric data from smartphones for potential use in numerical weather prediction data assimilation"

https://rmets.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/met.1805

https://github.com/dmidk/smaps