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Re:France rejects backdoor mandate by dadoum on Friday March 21, 2025 @09:35PM (#43442495)
> Your lack of empathy for others is always baffling for me. “I haven’t had problems with occupants, therefore they are not a problem.”

They just said that they hadn't observed the same thing in their entourage.

> Some had to crawl, bleeding on the floor, reciting to Coran.

Are you referring to a recent event in France? Can't find any with the query "réciter coran otage". That quote makes France look like a war zone.

> Some pupils grow under oppression, having to donate their lunch meal every day.

> Some had to give their mobile phone.

Are you making a link with "occupants" from the first sentence? Because bullying and assault didn't wait for immigration to exist, and criminality in general is caused by so much factors that makes the analysis harder than just looking at correlations.

> some people are thrown in the Seine.

Search for "jeté dans la Seine" (thrown in the Seine):

- [20 years ago] Brahim Bouraam: murder of a Moroccan in Paris by a far-right militant [0]

- [5 days ago] A jogger thrown into the Seine by a drunken German, another bystander injured [1]

I don't think you referred to those actions.

> But as long as you give occupants priority and respect in your life, and you respect them

Nobody said something remotely related to that in the thread.

> don’t say anything about the occupied zone

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I hope that you can still find some enjoyment in the dystopian alternate reality you're experiencing.

PS: I lived in a hot district. I haven't been assaulted but I know someone who has been. It hasn't been perpetrated by an immigrant, and nothing happened after. He hasn't been caught, police closed the case, and life went on. It makes me think the problem here is not related to immigrants. But that's anecdata anyway. A study apparently found no correlation between immigration and criminality [2].

[0]: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affaire_Brahim_Bouraam

[1]: https://www.20minutes.fr/faits_divers/faits-divers-paris/414...

[2]: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2023/04/23/no-study...

Re:France rejects backdoor mandate by anonym29 on Friday March 21, 2025 @11:55PM (#43443335)
I find your linked study intriguing, as an American who's aware of studies on my side of the Atlantic that show an inverse relationship between immigration and criminality - i.e. immigrants commit less crime than native born citizens: https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/illegal-immigrant-murde...

Is that truly not the case in France? I'd be curious as to the results of a study comparing this effect across both countries.

Re:France rejects backdoor mandate by bananalychee on Saturday March 22, 2025 @03:17AM (#43444139)
Crime rates from immigrant populations are highly dependent on where the immigrants come from, and the US tends to do a better job at integration than European countries in recent years. Not that the US did not experience problems with immigrant crime from South America, but it is much worse in Europe, notably with immigrants from the Middle East. I think the baseline crime rate in the US was also higher than it was in European countries, before mass immigration policies kicked in.
Re:France rejects backdoor mandate by anthk on Saturday March 22, 2025 @04:55AM (#43444432)
The US is an ocean way from Middle East. What did you expect? If the US imported inmigrants from war zones, (like Mexico with narcos but far worse), California, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas... would be shitting bricks today.
Re:France rejects backdoor mandate by mariusor on Saturday March 22, 2025 @06:21AM (#43444748)
I'm pretty sure that the biggest numbers of immigrants in those states come exactly from that "war zone" that you think Mexico is.
Re:France rejects backdoor mandate by rvnx on Saturday March 22, 2025 @06:30AM (#43444790)
It's illegal to do such studies in France and to talk about them
Re:France rejects backdoor mandate by eastbound on Sunday March 23, 2025 @03:04AM (#43451324)
> I hope that you can still find some enjoyment in the dystopian alternate reality you're experiencing.

False statistics.

Let’s call it a strange anomaly that when we get racketeered, it’s arabs, when my car’s bumper was broken, it was by an arab, when I got punched in the metro, it was an arab, when my relative was raped at 7, it was an arab, and we literally have anti-muslim bollards around every school in my country to prevent arabs from using trucks to maul 70 people like they did in Nice, and other anti-muslim metal detector in every Christmas market “because we’re safe”, which cost us millions on top of freedoms we lose,

…but according to YOUR statistics, immigration makes us SAFER.

Between a reality that I can witness and has material reality, and your statistics, I choose that you are blatantly falsifying truth in order to commit a crime against humanity. Because we’re real people dying in my country and this is by design from you, as demonstrated by the orders to kill mécréants by Algerian influencers.

Or maybe you don’t have problems because you’re Muslims.