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Re:ACARS Drama by lxgr on Thursday March 20, 2025 @03:13PM (#43427641)
> It's broadcast in the clear, unencrypted.

But so were analog mobile phones and pagers, and in some countries, even receiving unencrypted voice ATC radio isn't legal.

Re:ACARS Drama by lazide on Thursday March 20, 2025 @06:11PM (#43429582)
The whole point of ATC is that everyone in the area is able to figure out what is going on by listening in.

What/how is making listening in on that illegal ok?

Re:ACARS Drama by tjohns on Thursday March 20, 2025 @08:13PM (#43430552)
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Re:ACARS Drama by lxgr on Friday March 21, 2025 @04:30PM (#43440468)
> Totally legal everywhere (except a few rare exceptions, like the UK).

And (after a cursory search) Spain, Portugal, Germany, Austria, maybe France... In other words, legal in some places, illegal in others.

> Text-based ATC communications is done over a different system called CPDLC (FANS-1/A)

ACARS is both an application and a (legacy) lower layer suite of protocols supporting it, but modern ACARS versions and CPDLC can use the same underlying digital channel, as far as I understand (i.e. VDL Mode 2).

As a result, many of these tracking sites can capture both, as well as presumably "legacy/analog" ACARS.

Re:ACARS Drama by lxgr on Thursday March 20, 2025 @06:47PM (#43429940)
Not sure about the details, but I suspect it's more a consequence of laws on telecommunication privacy from analog days being very generic than a specific intention to make ATC listening illegal. Opt-out vs. opt-in by frequency and/or purpose, essentially.

That said, it's supposedly still being very much enforced against e.g. planespotters at airshows in some places – no idea what the point of that is.

Re:ACARS Drama by lxgr on Friday March 21, 2025 @04:23PM (#43440402)
Baffling to get downvoted for a suspicion about the origins of the status quo, as if that were an endorsement of it.
Re:ACARS Drama by lazide on Friday March 21, 2025 @07:03PM (#43441638)
Forget it up Jake, it’s Chinatown