Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri...
by mdp2021 on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @08:00PM
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No, sorry, I understand it was clear it could happen in the late XVIII century. Hence some definite effort to avoid bad turns. Hence engineering with care, hence maintenance.
Signals had been there. And the dangers were "known knowns".
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri...
by megous on Thursday March 20, 2025 @04:19AM
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Not sure what you mean by "here" and where you see the distinction. It's still in the "Americans doing bad things to foreigners" category. There's no distinction. It's just that rejecting some French on the border is just relatively minor bad thing, compared to materially supporting genocide.
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri...
by ggm on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @09:15PM
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I would be interested in knowing to what extent the HN back history shows evidence of webscraping, and to what extent there is evidence this social network (because it is one) is feeding the same information space that US Customs and Immigration use to determine who to pull out of the line.
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri...
by keernan on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @09:42PM
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Are visitors to the US now required to produce their phone and password to allow immigration to look at messages?
It's been a very long time (1972) since I traveled outside the US, so I'm obviously not up to speed on international travel, but I am really surprised that people are not permitted to cross international boundaries without producing a phone for inspection.
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri...
by ty6853 on Thursday March 20, 2025 @07:43AM
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Iirc a judge stopped the systematic requirement to inspect, but if you're not a citizen and refuse they can put you in the deportation gulag for a couple weeks and I guess not look at the phone. Not legal advice.
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri...
by freehorse on Thursday March 20, 2025 @10:00AM
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I wonder what usually travels if one travels with a burner phone (a phone obviously barely previously used) to the US, or in other places where one would not want to risk their phone getting confiscated. Is there any experience on that? Should one try to build some plausible deniability on that (eg use lightly a phone for a while for it to at least appear used)?
Signals had been there. And the dangers were "known knowns".
https://boingboing.net/2025/03/19/tom-the-dancing-bug-news-o...
I’m not complaining, to be clear. As a non American, I wonder if it signals a shift in thinking from the users?
Or should I say regression?
It is pretty clear now they want to use the state to impose / punish what they deem "wrong" thinking / ideas.
It's been a very long time (1972) since I traveled outside the US, so I'm obviously not up to speed on international travel, but I am really surprised that people are not permitted to cross international boundaries without producing a phone for inspection.