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Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by Terr_ on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @06:54PM (#43418098)
Remember the happy days of "that's crazy, I'm glad it can't happen here"?
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by aaronbrethorst on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @07:00PM (#43418132)
Yes I do distinctly recall November 4, 2024.
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by mdp2021 on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @08:00PM (#43418564)
No, sorry, I understand it was clear it could happen in the late XVIII century. Hence some definite effort to avoid bad turns. Hence engineering with care, hence maintenance.

Signals had been there. And the dangers were "known knowns".

Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by Terr_ on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @07:02PM (#43418150)
I was thinking 2016 plus a few no-personal-repercussions scandals.
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by megous on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @08:01PM (#43418574)
If USA can fund and support genocide just fine, is not letting some people into the country based on some frivolous reasons really that crazy a thing?
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by clipsy on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @08:10PM (#43418639)
I'm not defending the position, but for a lot of Americans I think the emphasis is "it can't happen here."
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by megous on Thursday March 20, 2025 @04:19AM (#43420796)
Not sure what you mean by "here" and where you see the distinction. It's still in the "Americans doing bad things to foreigners" category. There's no distinction. It's just that rejecting some French on the border is just relatively minor bad thing, compared to materially supporting genocide.
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by pmags on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @09:10PM (#43418988)
I posted this previously as it's own thread but it got no uptake, but the sentiment is so appropriate here:

https://boingboing.net/2025/03/19/tom-the-dancing-bug-news-o...

Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by tim333 on Thursday March 20, 2025 @11:53AM (#43424945)
Well, what do you expect for disrespecting America's monarch?
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by kace91 on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @07:47PM (#43418477)
I’m seeing a way larger than usual amount of political posts making the HN frontpage without flagging.

I’m not complaining, to be clear. As a non American, I wonder if it signals a shift in thinking from the users?

Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by mdp2021 on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @07:53PM (#43418517)
You could instead wonder if, thinking remaining the same, events are evaluated as having special significance.
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by jrflowers on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @07:54PM (#43418529)
I think it’s more of a change in material circumstances. It’s not really “political” to be informed about the realities of entering a country.
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by prawn on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @09:21PM (#43419051)
And with technology and privacy being directly relevant.
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by croes on Thursday March 20, 2025 @08:33AM (#43422224)
The current course of the US heavily influences its future progress in science and technology.

Or should I say regression?

Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by SSLy on Thursday March 20, 2025 @10:42AM (#43424169)
it's flagged now
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by like_any_other on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @07:01PM (#43418147)
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by userlander on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @07:00PM (#43418135)
Free speech amirite
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by duxup on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @06:51PM (#43418078)
I remember when the Republican party at least pretended to have some sympathy along the lines of libertarianism.

It is pretty clear now they want to use the state to impose / punish what they deem "wrong" thinking / ideas.

Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by verdverm on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @11:43PM (#43419729)
It's largely the Hungary playbook being run in America by the Heritage Foundation
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Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by duxup on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @07:43PM (#43418448)
Lots of brand new accounts on HN who haven’t contributed anything telling everyone what shouldn’t be talked about these days.
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by ggm on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @09:15PM (#43419019)
I would be interested in knowing to what extent the HN back history shows evidence of webscraping, and to what extent there is evidence this social network (because it is one) is feeding the same information space that US Customs and Immigration use to determine who to pull out of the line.
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by keernan on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @09:42PM (#43419160)
Are visitors to the US now required to produce their phone and password to allow immigration to look at messages?

It's been a very long time (1972) since I traveled outside the US, so I'm obviously not up to speed on international travel, but I am really surprised that people are not permitted to cross international boundaries without producing a phone for inspection.

Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by ty6853 on Thursday March 20, 2025 @07:43AM (#43421860)
Iirc a judge stopped the systematic requirement to inspect, but if you're not a citizen and refuse they can put you in the deportation gulag for a couple weeks and I guess not look at the phone. Not legal advice.
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by freehorse on Thursday March 20, 2025 @10:00AM (#43423582)
I wonder what usually travels if one travels with a burner phone (a phone obviously barely previously used) to the US, or in other places where one would not want to risk their phone getting confiscated. Is there any experience on that? Should one try to build some plausible deniability on that (eg use lightly a phone for a while for it to at least appear used)?
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by croes on Thursday March 20, 2025 @08:29AM (#43422191)
Hey JD, what was that about free speech?
Re:French scientist denied US entry after phone messages cri... by RajuVarghese on Thursday March 20, 2025 @09:04AM (#43422622)
I guess I'll need a burner phone when traveling to the US in the near future. Just as a lot of people do when visiting China. What a turn of events!