Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

Re:Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones by EA-3167 on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @01:57PM (#43402521)

Something I learned a while ago is that there's a particular brand of very vocal person online who has a bone to pick with Apple. Sometimes it's for a good reason, sometimes less so, but the point is that they come to discussions of any Apple topic with a conclusion ready in hand and then work backwards from that. In this case the conclusion is, "Apple is wicked, perfidious, and monopolistic."

Truthfully there isn't much you can say to people in that mindset.

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Re:Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones by sunshowers on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @01:58PM (#43402551)

I think trillion dollar companies should not exist. They are inherently destructive to humanity.

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Re:Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones by EA-3167 on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @02:01PM (#43402592)

Case in point. If the topic was that, then I'd welcome the discussion, but when you simply bring that to every discussion about Apple... it gets old. After all your statement only really needs to be said once for people to understand it, which makes the repetition over the years very grating. "Single issue posters" are generally the least engaging on the internet.

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Re:Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones by sunshowers on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @02:03PM (#43402611)

I'm not a single-issue poster. I'm an established engineer with a large amount of public writing, much of which has been on the HN front page!

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Re:Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones by worik on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @02:29PM (#43402982)

Apple is a poster child for why there should be limits on the power of wealth

Closing your mind to the possibility that Apple is throughly rotton is probably soothing, but the possibility remains that we are right, you are wrong, and each time the conclusion is the same, and correct

Big Tech monopolies sniffle innovation and hord resources

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Re:Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones by 9rx on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @02:42PM (#43403174)

Apple and the like are only worth as much as they are because of intellectual property laws. Without that, you'd have a million iPhone clones (perfect copies, minus the dumb stuff) on the market a few days later and Apple would soon be worthless.

Intellectual property laws is not some natural law of the universe. It only exists because the people (i.e. the general public) want it to exist. They could do away with it on a whim, but choose not to. Which isn't irrational as it may first seem. Their own careers probably rely on the status quo, and their retirement savings no doubt rest on companies like Apple being worth a fortune, so there is a lot of incentive to not rock the boat.

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Re:Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones by worik on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @03:39PM (#43404009)

IP laws are not all or nothing. It is possible to have property law that allows the good things (personal property, rewards for innovation) without the bad (market domination, monopoly and oligopoly)

We have not tried, and it is not due to "we the people" it is due to "them our overlords"

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Re:Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones by 9rx on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @03:55PM (#43404241)

> it is due to "them our overlords"

Funny enough, the state of intellectual property tends to be much more relaxed where overlords are actually found (e.g. China). It's easy when one guy can make things so. Far less easy when you have millions upon millions of people afraid that any change will impact them personally.

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Re:Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones by ch4s3 on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @10:59PM (#43407888)

This seems arbitrary. What is the limiting principle here? Should there be no 100 billion dollar company? How about after 50 years of inflation?

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Re:Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones by saagarjha on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @07:30AM (#43410609)

You’re more than welcome to adjust for inflation on that number.

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Re:Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones by dns_snek on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @03:30PM (#43403885)

Interesting conclusion given that pro-Apple comments with provably incorrect claims routinely end up at the top of the HN's comment section, this thread included. Information directly refuting those claims often gets downvoted and suppressed. Why is that?

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Re:Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones by commakozzi on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @02:02PM (#43402608)

it's tiring isn't it?

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Re:Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones by recursive on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @02:08PM (#43402675)

Yes. Probably in approximately the same way I find that there's nothing you can say to Apple fans that find a way to justify anything the Apple does.

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Re:Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones by sunshowers on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @02:05PM (#43402640)

The fucking article is about this, so it's very relevant.

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Re:Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones by avidiax on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @02:02PM (#43402609)

"We should not discuss how much of a monopoly Apple is. It's impossible to convince some people that it's actually not a monopoly."

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Re:Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones by guelo on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @05:37PM (#43405454)

Aren't all you apple defenders with very similar opinions also "a particular brand of very vocal person online"?

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