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Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by out_of_protocol on Sunday March 16, 2025 @01:39PM (#43380726)
Double slit experiment did happen and totally reproducible even then photons/electrons are sent by one at a time.

"two photons come out" part makes no sense though. On a target side, there's always single hit after single photon/electron, but distribution of theses hits as if said electron got through both slits and interfered with itself

P.S. the funny thing is - this works on any small thingy, measured up to 2000 atoms-big, as if it's the property of the universe itself

Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by namaria on Sunday March 16, 2025 @03:42PM (#43381563)
The experiment working on clusters of atoms is news to me and I loved getting to know about that. But the thing that really breaks my mind is the experiment that proves that the behavior depends on the possibility of getting information from which slit the particle went through. So we can rule out the act of measurement itself interfering with the behavior of the particle.

They did it by splitting a beam of particles into a pair of entangled particles and then setting up a way to measure the polarity of one of them after the point in time where it even hits the final screen. If you measure the polarity then, after the other stream of particles from the beam had already had time to make the pattern, the pattern will be two clusters. If you don't, it goes back to an interference pattern.

That one really cemented the notion in my head that this is just how the Universe is and not some local weirdness with particles and measurements.

Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by canadiantim on Sunday March 16, 2025 @04:11PM (#43381847)
Hadn’t hear that, that one is wild
Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by smolder on Sunday March 16, 2025 @06:38PM (#43383216)
That version is called the quantum eraser experiment. It really is brain bending.
Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by wruza on Sunday March 16, 2025 @06:26PM (#43383111)
I think Sabine explained this social effect few years ago. I know she's a little controversial, but the key thing in the video (as opposed to all other videos about DSE on the internet) was that you don't get "two clusters" actually. They are both statistical parts of a single [non-]interference pattern. "||" is a lie. I'm not in a physics rebel camp and don't prefer Sabine either, but after that I sort of lost trust in the interpretations that can't even get the resulting picture right. I even suspect that showing dumbed results amplifies "wow" effect and monetizes better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQv5CVELG3U

This is the video if you're interested. Again, I'm no physicist and don't know if explanations are legit or statistically correct. But that little || trick that all other popsci videos play on you, that's a true concern.

Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by namaria on Sunday March 16, 2025 @07:17PM (#43383519)
You are correct, the experiment I referred to does not yield two distinct clusters of collisions at all.

You can check it out here.

Summary https://www.stonybrook.edu/laser/_amarch/eraser/index.html

Paper https://www.stonybrook.edu/laser/_amarch/eraser/Walborn.pdf

My fascination with these experiments has never been due neat clusters of impacts, although popsci depictions have clearly tainted my memory.

Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by bad_haircut72 on Sunday March 16, 2025 @01:57PM (#43380845)
I would love to try this experiment with something basketball sized out in space. Like we build an enormous basketball detector behind a double slit inside an unobservable black box. If thr basketball started acting like a wave I would be sooo freaked out
Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by whatshisface on Sunday March 16, 2025 @02:15PM (#43380958)
The largest double-slit projectile I know of is C-60, a soccer-ball shaped molecule of sixty atoms.

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/2058-7058/12/11/4

Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by randunel on Sunday March 16, 2025 @02:40PM (#43381131)
That website's captcha is horrible!
Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by heylook on Sunday March 16, 2025 @03:00PM (#43381279)
Or amazing.
Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by nextts on Sunday March 16, 2025 @04:47PM (#43382150)
I got cats with sunglasses
Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by qingcharles on Sunday March 16, 2025 @08:49PM (#43384076)
Me too. And I had to click on bird legs to verify o_O
Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by out_of_protocol on Sunday March 16, 2025 @04:55PM (#43382229)
Wiki, citation 19

> The largest entities for which the double-slit experiment has been performed were molecules that each comprised 2000 atoms (whose total mass was 25,000 atomic mass units).[19]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment

Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by rusk on Sunday March 16, 2025 @03:35PM (#43381514)
If the slits are big enough, isn’t that just gravity?
Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by cellular on Sunday March 16, 2025 @08:10PM (#43383873)
And Why can't gravity serve as an observer?!

The electron/proton entering a slit is affected by gravity!

Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by nick3443 on Sunday March 16, 2025 @11:18PM (#43384862)
The entanglement theory would imply that if you build a detector that turns the gravity interaction into a finite piece of data observable by an (amplified) system, then gravity will act as an observer and collapse the waveform when it reaches that point. That's my take on the whole thing... It's almost like information theory. If the information is lost to the sands of time (below noise floor if you will) then the entanglement can continue.
Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by rusk on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @05:50PM (#43417664)
From my recollection of Hawking - it’s the energy of light that disturbs the particle being measured thus confounding the measurement

Presumably a gravity based detector would have similar issues as these particles are affected by gravity (as can be seen around black holes)

Re:Did the Particle Go Through the Two Slits, or Did the Wav... by idontwantthis on Sunday March 16, 2025 @06:09PM (#43382953)
I don’t know what it’s called but I read about a proposed experiment to do it in space with macrosized glass beads.