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Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by LexSiga on Friday March 14, 2025 @07:18AM (#43361499)
Part of the team here - Happy to discuss this further if you have any question about the move.
Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by dddw on Friday March 14, 2025 @08:04AM (#43361795)
Why OVH and not for instance Hetzner?
Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by ncruces on Friday March 14, 2025 @08:13AM (#43361868)
Because they're deploying to north america:

Although OVH and Hopsworks are technologies built in Europe, Hopsworks serverless service is located in North America, where most Hopsworks users are located and OVH also provides cloud capacity. In Europe, Hopsworks and OVH have since become partners to provide a sovereign AI platform for developing and operating AI systems at scale.

Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by mikaelronstrom on Friday March 14, 2025 @08:12AM (#43361859)
One obvious benefit of OVH compared to Hetzner is the S3 storage, the Kubernetes framework and a number of other services provided by OVH, don't think Hetzner would provide those services.
Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by tomashm on Friday March 14, 2025 @08:29AM (#43361978)
Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by kouzant on Friday March 14, 2025 @08:43AM (#43362076)
Hetzner's Object Storage does not seem API complete and it was released only recently.
Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by CoolCold on Saturday March 15, 2025 @07:05AM (#43371705)
Long time Hetzner user, but I would not trust new system (S3 storage) in this case for things beyond playground and tests until it has at least couple of years in production - Hetzner just made it public in ~ Nov 2024.
Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by mfld on Friday March 14, 2025 @07:40AM (#43361644)
Did you find differences in performance or reliability of the S3 and Kubernetes services already?
Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by Nemo_bis on Friday March 14, 2025 @08:19AM (#43361922)
That's already answered in OP's article.

k8s:

> Good stability.

S3:

> AWS S3 is the premier cloud-based object storage service. It may have higher availability, but it’s three times more expensive than OVH’s S3 storage.

Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by mikaelronstrom on Friday March 14, 2025 @08:23AM (#43361944)
The reliability of OVH has so far not been a problem. Performance is mostly a factor of the VM instances that you use, AWS has much more instances to choose from, but obviously at a much higher cost, so performance per dollar is obviously better with OVH.
Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by pjc50 on Friday March 14, 2025 @07:42AM (#43361656)
How large was the total data transfer? It doesn't seem to have been that big.
Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by kouzant on Friday March 14, 2025 @08:53AM (#43362152)
You'd be surprised :) We had to migrate a few thousand projects and their feature data and users' custom images. It was substantial. (eng@Hopsworks)
Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by soco on Friday March 14, 2025 @07:31AM (#43361599)
Any concrete plans to offer Serverless also in Europe?
Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by LexSiga on Friday March 14, 2025 @07:34AM (#43361614)
We are already available in Europe; it is just our infrastructure that is currently more us-centric in that sense.

Eventually as the demand grows we will of course deploy in EU region to improve the availability.

If it is more of a sovereign aspect; we are deployable on kubernetes;one can already use our installer on OVHCloud and deploy on a European region.

Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by gostsamo on Friday March 14, 2025 @07:23AM (#43361537)
How much time did it take from start to finish in terms of planning and preparing the entire operation?
Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by LexSiga on Friday March 14, 2025 @07:37AM (#43361627)
The actual migration, a day or less. Now there was a 2-week sprint for testing and validating backup and restore before doing the actual migration. At the non-engineering level (management and such) of course there was a review and consideration time as well.
Re:Migrating from AWS to a European Cloud – How We Cut Costs... by nonrandomstring on Friday March 14, 2025 @08:08AM (#43361834)
Good question.

I'd also like to hear more detail (budget, time, people and skills) on real cases.

When I had research students I set a few of them doing studies on migration, degoogling, data "repatriation" (ick!) and all the things I think we now call "sovereignty". But there was lots of theory and precious few solid, documented studies. There were also hundreds of propaganda pieces and Google/Microsoft/Amazon shill pieces sowing disinfo.

Surely that's changed now and the economic realities are clearer?