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Re:Tesla's team to suppress driving range complaints (2023) by jeroenhd on Sunday March 09, 2025 @09:20PM (#43315900)
Electric cars being much, much heavier than petrol cars do have a disadvantage going uphill.

I'd still reckon that range estimates should ignore these extreme edge cases, though.

Re:Tesla's team to suppress driving range complaints (2023) by infecto on Sunday March 09, 2025 @11:13PM (#43316662)
> Electric cars being much, much heavier than petrol cars

This is one of those comments that continues to come up but has never added up. Certainly if you are comparing a Tesla compared to a compact or a Euro version of a compact. Absolutely there is a weight difference. The problem is if you did a like for like comparison..a Model Y is the same Weight as an X3. A Model 3 is a couple hundred pounds heavier than a Toyota Camry.

Re:Tesla's team to suppress driving range complaints (2023) by Lanolderen on Monday March 10, 2025 @05:28AM (#43318463)
Comes mostly from comparing interiors in my experience. A camry has a full interior and is still ~400lbs lighter. If you compare minimal interior to minimal interior you're getting into Dacia with extra dynamat territory (can't think of a largeish stock ICE with good sound deadening and minimal interior) which is safe <1500kg. A Jogger is apparently 1261 kg kerb.
Re:Tesla's team to suppress driving range complaints (2023) by Peanuts99 on Monday March 10, 2025 @06:14AM (#43318789)
Difference between a petrol and electric Volvo XC40 is about 200KGs, so not insignificant but not as much as it's sometimes portrayed. EVs built from the ground-up may be able to knock a few of those KGs off too as they won't have structures designed for ICE components.
Re:Tesla's team to suppress driving range complaints (2023) by roelschroeven on Monday March 10, 2025 @07:48AM (#43319504)
According to carsized.com an ICE Volvo XC40 (not sure whether that's a plug-in hybrid, probably not) weighs 1580 kg, while the BEV one weighs 2040 kg. That's a difference of almost 500 kg. The BEV weighs almost 30% more, that seems pretty significant to me.

Batteries are heavy!

https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/volvo-xc40-2017-suv...

Re:Tesla's team to suppress driving range complaints (2023) by thebruce87m on Monday March 10, 2025 @03:40AM (#43317875)
> much, much heavier

Stop that. 10 - 15% doesn’t constitute “much, much”.

Re:Tesla's team to suppress driving range complaints (2023) by consteval on Monday March 10, 2025 @01:39PM (#43323055)
IMO it does, that’s the difference between a sedan and an SUV for a lot of brands.