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Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by qwerpy on Sunday March 09, 2025 @05:11PM (#43313883)
It's wild how "Elon did a Nazi salute" is now taken as an unquestioned truth. Most of the time here, false or exaggerated statements are "source?"-d and nitpicked to death, but not this one because so many people want it to be true.
Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by whymeogod on Sunday March 09, 2025 @05:39PM (#43314166)
Important to remember that his maternal grandfather and mother were ardent nazi supporters, which is why they moved from Canada to South Africa.
Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by outer_web on Sunday March 09, 2025 @07:04PM (#43314884)
What did he say about it after the fact?
Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by dom96 on Sunday March 09, 2025 @05:25PM (#43314040)
There is a freaking video. There is no "exaggeration" or possibility of it being false. The video shows he clearly did a Nazi salute.
Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by qwerpy on Sunday March 09, 2025 @05:33PM (#43314105)
Time for the "source?"-ing. If it is an undisputed fact, then is there any reputable media that plainly states "Elon did a Nazi salute"?
Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by lavezzi on Sunday March 09, 2025 @06:03PM (#43314366)
You can critically think for yourself, the video is there for anyone to watch. Why do you need 'reputable media' to confirm things for you? Especially since I'm sure you will denounce any source provided as non-reputable.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/20/trump-elo...

Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by wat10000 on Sunday March 09, 2025 @05:38PM (#43314159)
Why do we need media to interpret for us? Just go watch the video.
Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by ryandrake on Sunday March 09, 2025 @06:18PM (#43314497)
And then, if he still doesn't believe it's a Nazi salute, he should go into work and try doing it in front of all his co-workers and see what they think...
Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by Rodeoclash on Sunday March 09, 2025 @05:21PM (#43313997)
The salute he did on stage was false?
Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by regularjack on Sunday March 09, 2025 @05:33PM (#43314113)
The proof is out there for everyone to see.
Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by aprilthird2021 on Sunday March 09, 2025 @05:21PM (#43313993)
I think people who focus too much on "whether he really meant it or really made the salute" etc, are missing the forrest for the trees.

He's a guy who supports the AFD, who has said "German people are too focused on the past and should get rid of national guilt" or something along these lines. He definitely spends a lot of time online regurgitating 4chan like memes (which fine, I do that too, but I'm not a world leader) and acts and talks like a person who is obsessed with white demographics in Western societies.

He has a reputation of someone who would plausibly do that as a playful nod towards his terminally online fanbase. That's the issue. His reputation makes it believable. Whether he really meant to or not has little to do with that fact. Ultimately one's reputation is everything in democratic politics

Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by zfg on Sunday March 09, 2025 @10:16PM (#43316340)
> It's wild how "Elon did a Nazi salute" is now taken as an unquestioned truth.

He did it deliberately, he did it with gusto, and he did it twice just to make sure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQNNo2a9xc

These guys loved it: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-mus...

And so does this guy: https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1i68puj/have_we_l...

Re:Tesla Sales Fall Off a Cliff Globally, Including Germany,... by _DeadFred_ on Monday March 10, 2025 @01:45AM (#43317330)
I live in a red state. My Trump voting friends call him Trump's nazi boy or Trumps little nazi. It's not just people 'wanting it to be true'.