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Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by polski-g on Sunday March 09, 2025 @04:54PM (#43313691)
The difference is that in the future (assuming the mineral deal goes through), there would be US citizens operating mineral franchises on Ukrainian territory. So if Russia harmed them in the future, we would be drawn into an actual war.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by ascorbic on Sunday March 09, 2025 @07:10PM (#43314931)
There were US citizens and businesses in Ukraine last time. Russia will just go around them like they did then. Having some US businesses will provide zero protection.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by azan_ on Sunday March 09, 2025 @05:13PM (#43313909)
Assuming that USA would not withdraw their citizens prior to Russian attack. It's a big assumption with current administration.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by polski-g on Sunday March 09, 2025 @05:19PM (#43313971)
It will take more than 3 years to get a mining franchise operational.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by vanviegen on Sunday March 09, 2025 @05:22PM (#43314014)
Assuming mining those minerals would actually make economic and strategic sense for US companies, considering significant long-term investments require stability. And that a significant US workforce would even be required for that. And that the US administration doesn't just make a bargain with Putin about leaving these mining operations alone while doing whatever the fuck else they want.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by jjk166 on Monday March 10, 2025 @12:12AM (#43316947)
Name one American who would volunteer to fight because a mine got attacked.

Either we have the spine to defend our allies against unambiguous breaches of international law, or we don't.

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by polski-g on Monday March 10, 2025 @12:15AM (#43316961)
> Name one American who would volunteer to fight because a Thai ship got attacked by Yemeni rebels while travelling through an Ethiopian straight to an Egyptian canal.

Apparently, the entire US Navy was okay with that volunteer assignment.

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by jjk166 on Monday March 10, 2025 @11:22PM (#43328860)
Protecting international shipping from terrorists is radically different.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by peterbecich on Monday March 10, 2025 @03:42AM (#43317890)
Could Ukraine maneuver around Trump by instead signing a minerals deal with UK+EU? Better to give the $600b (optimistically) to friendly allies. The problem is UK+EU does not have equivalent defense contractors. US gets what it wants as well, by disconnecting from the conflict.