US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by Juliate on Sunday March 09, 2025 @11:48AM (#43310177)

Not American, but provided US military has an oath towards the Constitution (and not to whatever the government claims), I doubt _all_ of US army would follow (either internally, either externally) such a brutal reversal of duty as well as alliances.

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Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by casenmgreen on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:21PM (#43310587)

I am reminded of North Africa in I think it was 1942.

France over-run by Germany. Gestapo at work, with all its horrors.

UK+US land in French North Africa, part of taking Africa from Germany, part in the long run of liberating France from horrors of occupation.

French soldiers fighting, killing and being killed by UK+US troops.

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Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by Juliate on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:31PM (#43310706)

You mean the _Vichy_ French soldiers? that's quite a different situation than the allied French army :)

And, I was more thinking of the situation on American ground, within the USA and between the USA and Canada. I don't mean it wouldn't happen. I mean that I don't think that would happen with 100% engagement from all US army. The disconnect and reversal of strategy of the US, against its own allies, is too sudden.

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Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by casenmgreen on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:34PM (#43310756)

They were French army, just as any other, only the part which was in North Africa when France fell.

My thought here was that armies can fight with the most brutal oppressors of their very own country, against those who would liberate it.

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Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by ExoticPearTree on Sunday March 09, 2025 @01:03PM (#43311077)

Duty is to the Constitution and the Commander in Chief. And alliances are at the discretion of the President. The military will do whatever they are told in terms of who the have to be friends with.

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Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by Juliate on Sunday March 09, 2025 @03:35PM (#43312842)

I know. That's the theory and mostly the practice.

Only, ask your military to return against your just previous allies (at your own initiative) among which the one that helped your very nation to fight for its independence, with which you did cross-training and exercises, for the past 80 years... everyone is in for quite a bumpy road.

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