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Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by fvrther on Sunday March 09, 2025 @11:48AM (#43310175)
France sending jets while the U.S. waves the white flag? Looks like the surrender baton just got passed westward.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by nxm on Sunday March 09, 2025 @11:53AM (#43310238)
Sigh… a few jets can’t compare to level of aid American tax payer has given the past few years. More than OK with France finally doing something.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by Etheryte on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:38PM (#43310815)
Europe has given more aid to Ukraine in total numbers than America if I'm not mistaken? So I'm not really sure if I see what you mean.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by DFHippie on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:56PM (#43311001)
Yes, Europe has given more aid overall. And certainly much more per capita in many countries. The US has given more military aid, but not that much more.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by TiredOfLife on Monday March 10, 2025 @05:02AM (#43318313)
And part of European aid has gone directly to US economy to buy stuff for Ukraine.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by altacc on Sunday March 09, 2025 @01:46PM (#43311656)
The US' contribution has been incredibly significant and the war would have gone very differently without US support but the idea that the US has contributed most money is false and driven by hubris.

There's various ways of tracking support and by many metrics there are European countries that have given more than the US once you account for population & GDP. It gets more complicated for EU members as the EU has given financial support, so the largest funders of the EU, like France, have paid proportionally more via the EU than directly.

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-s... https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/these-co...

Also worth remembering that 70% of that aid from the US never left the US and was spent on procuring weapons from the US.

https://econofact.org/factbrief/does-most-u-s-aid-to-ukraine...

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by whymeogod on Sunday March 09, 2025 @05:09PM (#43313848)
Yes, this point should be emphasized more. The aid the US gave Ukraine was the US government buying expensive things from US companies. The money stayed in the US, created US jobs and US economic growth.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by insane_dreamer on Sunday March 09, 2025 @06:22PM (#43314528)
that's misinformation
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by brokenmachine on Monday March 10, 2025 @01:47AM (#43317342)
The "aid" that the US has given mostly helps the US get rid of their older weapons that they would have to pay to dispose of, and that "aid" money stays in the US, helping US industries and making US jobs.

But I wouldn't expect a businessman the calibre of Trump, who has managed to bankrupt multiple casinos, to understand any of that.

Maybe more tariffs will help the American tax payers.