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Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by InDubioProRubio on Thursday March 06, 2025 @08:12AM (#43279804)
Does that imply that it also is part of character traits? As in use empathy, become emphatic, stay in a non-emphatic environment, your brain degrades you to a sociopath?
Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by megadata on Thursday March 06, 2025 @08:15AM (#43279830)
I've seen people age into the classic "grumpy old man" so there's something to it. But there's probably a lot more to it too I'd think.
Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by tunnuz on Thursday March 06, 2025 @08:17AM (#43279844)
I always assumed that it was something to do with people getting increasingly frustrated with the struggle of keeping up with stuff.
Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by biofox on Thursday March 06, 2025 @08:19AM (#43279866)
Chronic pain probably plays a part too. I know I get grumpy and miserable when I'm unwell or in pain.
Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by ethbr1 on Thursday March 06, 2025 @08:29AM (#43279964)
I've attributed that to a decreased ability to deal with novel situations as we age. E.g. the world behaved differently than I was expecting.

One thing it's definitely possible and important to intentionally keep exposing oneself to!

Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by sgc on Thursday March 06, 2025 @09:09AM (#43280348)
I am definitely grumpy. What makes me grumpy is the fact that society keeps banging its head against a wall for no good reason.

There is everything there for growth, and yet I see none. I get very tired of knowing well what the boring, selfish reaction of the person I encounter is going to be. I am sure I do the same thing - and don't change much compared to what is available to me to make changes. I do not lead by example at all the way I would like.

Nonetheless, what makes me grumpy is lack of change, not the superficial appearance of change with which technology distracts us. Moral growth would be so refreshing to see, but I see none of it - despite virtue signalling as a veneer from all parts of society.

Said more colloquially, a lot of older people just grow tired of all our bulls*t.

Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by ethbr1 on Thursday March 06, 2025 @01:37PM (#43283550)
But all the objective bullshit still existed when we were younger! And it didn't bother us as much then.
Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by sgc on Thursday March 06, 2025 @04:16PM (#43285156)
I was much less aware of it when I was younger. Ignorance is bliss.
Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by megadata on Friday March 07, 2025 @06:25AM (#43289294)
Spot on. People learn to recognize it from miles ahead and in now what's up.
Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by Lanolderen on Thursday March 06, 2025 @08:49AM (#43280140)
I think it has more to do with getting desensitized to things the more you're exposed to them. With age you get more and more exposure to everything emotional and lose the strong reactions.

Add to that some frustration from not being able to keep up with things, health issues, no one "young" having time to hang out and your friends dying all the time and I'd be grumpy too. You were once a stallion taking care of everyone and now you worry about falling in the shower because you occasionally lose balance for whatever reason. And you know it'll hurt like a bitch, you'll break something and it won't heal for a year. It's quite humiliating.

Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by SimianSci on Thursday March 06, 2025 @08:20AM (#43279875)
As with most research around our scientific understanding of intelligence, I assume this only scratches the surface. There may be something to your comment.
Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by dijit on Thursday March 06, 2025 @08:23AM (#43279901)
"You become the average of the 5 people you hang out with most" is a common phrase, there must be at least an ounce of truth to it.
Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by donatj on Thursday March 06, 2025 @08:46AM (#43280115)
I hung out with a friend recently I had not seen in close to a decade. He was at one time my closest friend and seeing him was kind of uncomfortable and enlightening. I saw sooo much of how I used to talk and act still in him that it really had me wondering how much of that I'd gotten from him versus the reverse.
Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by senectus1 on Thursday March 06, 2025 @08:25AM (#43279916)
personally yes. I absolutely have seen this in myself and moved to rectify it.
Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by misterpurple45 on Thursday March 06, 2025 @08:31AM (#43279979)
I think you mean empathetic, rather than emphatic.
Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by nialse on Thursday March 06, 2025 @09:32AM (#43280633)
There are trajectories of personality traits over the life span, I would hesitate to extrapolate them based on the trajectory of cognitive abilities though. One of the known life span emotional/personality trajectory is positivity bias, older people tend to be more positive. It is sometimes framed as negativity avoidance, that is older people tend to ignore negative things more often.
Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by canjobear on Thursday March 06, 2025 @10:28AM (#43281326)
Personality disorders like BPD tend to attenuate with age, so you would be more likely to become less sociopathic.
Re:Age and cognitive skills: Use it or lose it by dboreham on Thursday March 06, 2025 @06:36PM (#43286119)
Perhaps correlating with "ingesting more and more valuable training data"? Which is pretty much what CBT/DBT is supplying imho.