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Re:Apple M3 Ultra by kokada on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @10:17AM (#43267659)
> This hardware is really being held back by the operating system at this point.

Apple could either create a 2U rack hardware and support Linux (and I mean Apple supporting it, not hobbysts), or have a build of Darwin headless that could run on that hardware. But in the later case, we probably wouldn't have much software available (though I am sure people would eventually starting porting software to it, there is already MacPorts and Homebrew and I am sure they could be adapted to eventually run in that platform).

But Apple is also not interested in that market, so this will probably never happen.

Re:Apple M3 Ultra by ewzimm on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @10:35AM (#43267934)
There has to be someone at Apple with a contact at IBM that could make Fedora Apple Remix happen. It may not be on-brand, but this is a prime opportunity to make the competition look worse. File it under Community projects at https://opensource.apple.com/projects
Re:Apple M3 Ultra by asadm on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @01:18PM (#43270222)
Re:Apple M3 Ultra by naikrovek on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @10:31AM (#43267876)
> But Apple is also not interested in that market, so this will probably never happen.

they're just a tiny company with shareholders who are really tired of never earning back their investments. give 'em a break. I mean they're still so small that they must protect themselves by requiring that macs be used for publishing iPhone and iPad applications.

Re:Apple M3 Ultra by hnaccount_rng on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @11:28AM (#43268754)
Not to get in the way of good snark or anything. But.. Apple isn't _requiring_ that everyone uses MacOS on their systems. But you have to bring your own engineering effort to actually make another OS run. And so far Asahi is the only effort that I'm aware of (there were alternatives in the very beginning, but they didn't even get to M2 right?)
Re:Apple M3 Ultra by thesuitonym on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @01:54PM (#43270651)
> But you have to bring your own engineering effort to actually make another OS run.

I mean, that's usually how it works though. When IBM launched the PS/2, they didn't support anything other than PC-DOS and OS/2, Microsoft had to make MS-DOS work for it (I mean... they did get support from IBM, but not really), the 386BSD and Linux communities brought the engineering effort without IBM's involvement.

When Apple was making Motorola Macs, they may have given Be a little help, but didn't support any other OSes that appeared. Same with PowerPC.

All of the support for alternative OSes has always come from the community, whether that's volunteers or a commercial interest with cash to burn. Why should that change for Apple silicon?

Re:Apple M3 Ultra by orangecat on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @07:16PM (#43274571)
When Apple was making Motorola Macs, they may have given Be a little help, but didn't support any other OSes that appeared. Same with PowerPC.

Apple briefly supported a Linux distribution on PowerPC Macs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MkLinux.

Re:Apple M3 Ultra by pjmlp on Thursday March 06, 2025 @02:40AM (#43277496)
However to be more accurate that is from a time and age, where how management was going, maybe there wouldn't be an Apple today.
Re:Apple M3 Ultra by jorams on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @03:19PM (#43271761)
Note that they said (emphasis mine):

> they're still so small that they must protect themselves by requiring that macs be used for publishing iPhone and iPad applications.

They're not talking about Apple's silicon as a target, but as a development platform.

Re:Apple M3 Ultra by alwillis on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @03:01PM (#43271552)
I wouldn't be so sure about that.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43271486

Re:Apple M3 Ultra by pjmlp on Thursday March 06, 2025 @02:38AM (#43277485)
Apple was once in the server market, they decided a few times actually, that isn't where they want to be.