Italy moves to reverse anti-nuclear stance

Re:Italy moves to reverse anti-nuclear stance by mpweiher on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @10:11AM (#43255694)

"The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause."

Citing a correct fact about the world is not propaganda, as facts are neither doctrine nor "reflect views".

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Re:Italy moves to reverse anti-nuclear stance by echoangle on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @10:41AM (#43256115)

You can cite facts to provoke an emotional response and make people sympathetic to your ideology. That's propaganda.

> Citing a correct fact about the world is not propaganda, as facts are neither doctrine nor "reflect views".

It says "propagation of doctrine" and facts can be used to propagate a doctrine.

Edit:

Here's a definition from Wikipedia:

> NATO's 2011 guidance for military public affairs defines propaganda as "information, ideas, doctrines, or special appeals disseminated to influence the opinion, emotions, attitudes, or behaviour of any specified group in order to benefit the sponsor, either directly or indirectly".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda#Definitions

Does that sound like the information has to be false to be propaganda?

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Re:Italy moves to reverse anti-nuclear stance by mpweiher on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @05:44PM (#43260592)

I didn't say that.

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Re:Italy moves to reverse anti-nuclear stance by echoangle on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @06:05PM (#43260697)

> Well, if it is [technically] correct, then it's obviously not "propaganda", but simply the truth.

What does that mean?

Claim is correct => Claim is not propaganda

Also means

Claim is propaganda => Claim can not be correct

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