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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by gitaarik on Saturday March 01, 2025 @06:38AM (#43218319)
Yeah but we could have prevented it, so that means we wanted to so badly expand NATO that we would go into war with Russia for it? Why can't we stay put and maybe try to talk more? And now that we have an opportunity to talk or make a deal, and we blow it off as being in bed with Putin?
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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by echoangle on Saturday March 01, 2025 @07:04AM (#43218452)
Because we don’t want to be told who to voluntarily take into our alliance by an opponent? Are you going to give china everything they ask for next because they take Taiwan if you don’t?
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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by gitaarik on Saturday March 01, 2025 @07:13AM (#43218509)
But NATO first agreed not to expand to countries along Russia's border, because they see that as a threat. But then NATO did anyway. So it's not like we're being told by Russia what to do, we made an agreement.

And Russia is also a superpower, and we don't want to be in conflict with them. So yeah it's not that everything they say we should abide to, but we should also not think that we can do everything without upsetting them.

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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by echoangle on Saturday March 01, 2025 @07:20AM (#43218542)
NATO didn’t agree to not expand, some ministers of some member countries verbally said that NATO wouldn’t expand. It’s not like there was a treaty that was signed and then ignored.
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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by gitaarik on Saturday March 01, 2025 @07:27AM (#43218587)
Well I guess that for Russia it doesn't really matter if the agreement was official. They still feel threatened by it, and they have been saying that, and NATO still went on.
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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by echoangle on Saturday March 01, 2025 @07:28AM (#43218600)
Ok, so then it’s fine? I know what happened, we were discussing if it’s acceptable though.
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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by gitaarik on Saturday March 01, 2025 @07:39AM (#43218677)
Then what is fine? To expand NATO? Maybe it's not fine if it causes WW3
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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by echoangle on Saturday March 01, 2025 @07:44AM (#43218721)
I was asking if Russia invading Ukraine is fine, because it was expected.
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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by gitaarik on Saturday March 01, 2025 @07:59AM (#43218829)
Yeah no I'm not saying that that is necessary ok, but that we should consider making a deal with Russia instead of just continuing the war.
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