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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by troupo on Saturday March 01, 2025 @03:23AM (#43217236)
Ukraine was Russia's ally. Russian businesses operated in Ukraine. Russian entertainment was made in Ukraine. There was effectively no borders between Russia and Ukraine. Ukraine was one of the most pro-Russian countries among the post-Soviet countries.

Look what being an ally with Russia brought.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by drysine on Saturday March 01, 2025 @04:50AM (#43217713)
>Look what being an ally with Russia brought.

More like what becoming an ally of the US in 2014 brought.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by troupo on Saturday March 01, 2025 @08:43AM (#43219146)
Ah yes. It was the US that invaded and illegally annexed Ukraine's territories, got you.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by throwaway48476 on Saturday March 01, 2025 @07:41PM (#43225844)
Syria rolled over because HTS improved the quality of life in Idlib. Ukraine resisted because russia turned donbas into a corrupt mafia state. People overlook the importance of the little things. Most people are fence sitters but are very aware of the facts on the ground.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by drysine on Sunday March 02, 2025 @12:40PM (#43232884)
>Ukraine resisted because russia turned donbas into a corrupt mafia state.

In this picture Crimea is conspicuously absent.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by artem2471 on Sunday March 02, 2025 @09:33AM (#43230858)
That’s not really accurate. Ukraine was not a member of either defence or economic blocs, like CSTO, or Customs Union, headed by Russia. Also some of the Ukrainian governments were effectively against relying on Russia, Yuschenko 2005-2010. Yet, there were extensive economic ties up to 2014, and some cultural ties up to 2022. Its not black and white.