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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by baq on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:05PM (#43209737)
> But boy, will the nations of the world remember this -- how quickly the US can turn from ally to bully.

Nothing new, smart people knew that for a long, looong time. May I remind you it took Pearl Harbor to get the US into WW2.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by bchasknga on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:37PM (#43210252)
Can you please inform me how the US bullied UK into mineral rights in WW2? We exported arms and equipment to them even before Lend-lease acts.

It would be true if you were to mention about our special flavor of freedom exportation during the cold war. However, this time Ukraine is a democratic nation being invaded by our biggest political rival, Russia.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by Danieru on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:51PM (#43210550)
No mineral rights: just gold up front.

The UK paid the US all it's gold reserves. Next it stole of the UK people's gold to use that to buy weapons.

The US was not giving the UK when it exported, it was selling. Lend lease came in once the UK ran out of gold. So the US gave them credit: which the UK tool until 2006 to repay.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by Hikikomori on Friday February 28, 2025 @07:02PM (#43213667)
The US had about 60% of the world's wealth after ww2. With that, their industrial base and with their "democratic" missions in South America for resources I'm amazed how fast they managed to squander it to make the rich richer.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by geye1234 on Friday February 28, 2025 @09:23PM (#43214963)
It's true. Also, the UK has never repaid its WW1 debt to the US.

The US joined WW1 when it became clear that the UK would not be able to repay its debt to JP Morgan and its clients if Germany won. Of course, that was not the only reason, but it was a huge factor. (Source: Adam Tooze, The Deluge)

(London had, bizarrely, decided to bankroll the Russian and French war efforts in addition to its own, so its debts were vast.)

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by dralley on Friday February 28, 2025 @04:41PM (#43211688)
FDR was opposed to imperialism, and so his terms for our meager involvement prior to direct entry into the war were pretty steep, as were his terms for the postwar order. Truman backed off on some of that though.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by throw16180339 on Friday February 28, 2025 @04:48PM (#43211824)
We charged the UK quite heavily for our support. Quoting from (https://yarchive.net/space/politics/lend_lease.html)

In a political sense, well, that's much more debatable. The problem there is that because the US itself did not feel threatened, US aid came with a price tag: the impoverishment of Britain and the demolition of the trade barriers around the British Commonwealth. US aid was on a cash-only basis until Britain had spent all its hard-currency reserves (both gold and negotiable securities). Then came the Lend-Lease agreement -- arguably the point where the US truly entered the war -- and its price tag was explicit, although unadvertised: the agreement itself contains a clause stipulating the removal of the Commonwealth's trade barriers.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by dh2022 on Friday February 28, 2025 @05:16PM (#43212335)
Cry me a river for the death of British (and Dutch and Belgium and, later, French) colonialism...
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by disgruntledphd2 on Saturday March 01, 2025 @06:10AM (#43218154)
It'll look different but China will probably do the same deal some point this century.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by exoverito on Friday February 28, 2025 @06:22PM (#43213154)
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by piva00 on Friday February 28, 2025 @09:18PM (#43214909)
Stealing radar tech (go read how Raytheon got started), and blocking the UK from nuke development tech after British scientists helped thoroughly the Manhattan Project are the ways the US bullied the UK during WW2.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by ksaj on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:08PM (#43209761)
It also took the White House being set on fire to understand the sovereignty of the land across its northern border. And now there's all this Trump talk of trying to invade once again.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by rcpt on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:28PM (#43210079)
I don't think I understand this comment