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Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by pbhjpbhj on Friday February 28, 2025 @04:53AM (#43203765)
What "sale of data" falls under a legal definition but would be understood by everyone to not be selling data? An example?

It sounds more like 'we sell your data, but we do it in a legally protracted way so we could claim up to now that we don't'.

Given this relates to Firefox's central selling proposition, they surely have an essay detailing exactly what data they're selling?

Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by tgsovlerkhgsel on Friday February 28, 2025 @05:57AM (#43204243)
I would expect that the default search engine deals that Firefox mostly relies on for financing could be interpreted as such.

Mozilla gets money, and as a result of the deal, the searches (data) of anyone who didn't change the default go to the company running the default search engine.

Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by folmar on Friday February 28, 2025 @01:21PM (#43208707)
By default Google gets not only search but everything entered into the address bar (for "suggestions").
Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by account42 on Monday March 03, 2025 @05:43AM (#43240463)
Yeah, that's pretty creepy - that also includes private that that would otherwise not reach the internet.
Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by Yizahi on Friday February 28, 2025 @11:22AM (#43207369)
It is always the same idea - if the data is even slightly touched and/or processed, it is suddenly not a personal data anymore and is "ok" to be sold.
Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by glenstein on Friday February 28, 2025 @04:52PM (#43211909)
>What "sale of data" falls under a legal definition but would be understood by everyone to not be selling data? An example?

I assume probably data that's anonymized (in some sense) and/or aggregated (in some sense). But there's so much grey area there that it's a lot less reassuring than a straight up blanket statement that they used to be able to make.

Re:Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other exte... by account42 on Monday March 03, 2025 @05:45AM (#43240476)
The real problem is that they are collecting too much data in the first place. Really, the company making the browser should receive no data at all - even auto-update servers can be handled by other non-profit organizations like universities.