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Re:"Do you not like money?" by EndShell on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @11:05AM (#43184941)
> Not because of abundance, but because eating well is too expensive.

No it isn't. Eating poorly is often (much) more expensive that eating properly. Non-processed food is actually reasonably priced for the most part. Fruit and Veg is reasonably cheap. Premium cuts of meat can be expensive.

Just looking at my recent trip to the supermarket:

* A 6 pack bag of apples (Pink Ladies) was less than £1.50

* A bag of easy peeler oranges was less than £1.50

* A bag of new potatoes £2

* Large Bunch of Bananas are about ~£2

* 12 Pack of Large Eggs - ~£2.50

* 12 Rashers of Bacon - ~£2.50-4

* 1kg packet of Chicken Thighs (Raw) are ~£3.50 (2 chicken thighs a day).

* Broccoli ~£1

* Spouts ~£1

* Beans ~£1

* Berry flavoured Tea Bags ~£2

* Bag of Italian Ground Coffee ~£3-4

* 240 Pack of Yorkshire Tea Bags (will last me a month or two) ~£6

* Store brand Olive oil based Margarine ~£2

* Premium Wholemeal Loaf of Bread ~£2-3

* 4 pints of Semi Skimmed Milk £2.50

* Various table Sauces ~£1-2

That is less than £50 and I don't need to buy some of those weekly. Each day I am eating about 1800-2000 calories (I've put myself on a calorie controlled diet to lose weight) and this will last me most of the week if not the entire week.

If I buy ready meals they are £3-6 each. Premade Pizza is £4-6. So much more expensive and objectively worse for your health than cooking yourself.

One takeaway meal from the local Chinese will cost me £22 (a main and a side), Noodles will cost £7-11 depending on the dish. A pizza from the local pizza shop is £8-10. This excludes delivery. The local deli will charge me £4-5 for a meal deal (Chicken Wrap, Snack and Drink).

McDonalds is about £7 for a Big Mac Meal. KFC is similar for one of their Box Meals.

Re:"Do you not like money?" by arretevad on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @11:20AM (#43185117)
One thing to consider is that Many people simply do not have the time, energy, and/or equipment to cook food from raw ingredients. These factors are common in poorer households where people are working multiple jobs, etc.
Re:"Do you not like money?" by card_zero on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @11:36AM (#43185293)
I think it's still manageable, but takes some thought.

* Bananas, a fine inexpensive convenient snack.

* Buy bread and sandwich fillers, add sliced tomato, not awful for you and not time consuming.

* Tea is cheap, I like tea.

* Cereal can be good if you can find one that hits the sweet spot between a bowl of chocolate and a bowl of chaff. Some sort of granola maybe.

Re:"Do you not like money?" by EndShell on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @11:31AM (#43185229)
I literally just puts the thighs in the air fryer (I have a cheapy one from Tesco) for 30 minutes. The steamer I have was £15 in Sainsburys (it was on offer).

Most kitchen equipment except for the white goods is dirt cheap and even the really cheap stuff can last for years. Most meals take me 30-40 minutes to cook maximum.

Re:"Do you not like money?" by card_zero on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @11:38AM (#43185315)
That's way too long. Ten minutes is more demand on my time than I really want to give to wrangling food items. I'll be in bed eating cake, thanks.
Re:"Do you not like money?" by EndShell on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @11:50AM (#43185439)
That isn't 30-40 minutes me standing in the kitchen cooking. That is how long it takes to cook in the air fryer (the thighs take about 30-35 minutes). I literally have a timer telling me when to put on the veg and the potatoes. I think prep time is max 10 minutes and then 10 minutes to wash up.

In any-event. It is objectively more expensive to buy junk food, that includes the cheaper junk. Once I cut out the trips to the takeaway and the deli, I was surprised at how much more money I had per month.

The fact is that people tend to want to eat junk.

Re:"Do you not like money?" by card_zero on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @11:57AM (#43185519)
That's certainly an improvement, but still involves me planning to eat in half an hour instead of just snacking right now. But I shouldn't be presenting myself as representative of any demographic except maybe bedroom coders. I tend to agree that junk and expense correlate. I don't eat junk, I eat random crap, it's very different.
Re:"Do you not like money?" by NoMoreNicksLeft on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @11:19AM (#43185109)
He doesn't know how to cook though, and at this point it's generational... his grandparents quite possibly never really learned how to cook. Worse still, he doesn't want to spend 1-2 hours every day doing meal preperation... cue the "if I do that I won't have any time at all to watch anime without staying up til 4 am!" stuff.

Eating well and making someone else do the work is expensive. For the lazy, this means eating well really is expensive.

Re:"Do you not like money?" by EndShell on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @11:31AM (#43185233)
I don't know how to cook either. I just put the thighs in the air fryer with some seasoning and steam the veg.