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Re:State of emergency declared after blackout plunges most o... by officialchicken on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @10:58AM (#43184856)
That's a terrible suggestion. A car is 20x the price of a generator while and at least 10x larger. A car can't power an entire household for days on end using a few gallons of gasoline per day, etc. A car is a transportation device, not a stationary energy generation machine designed as a backup in case of power failure.
Re:State of emergency declared after blackout plunges most o... by fhdkweig on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @11:25AM (#43185168)
Tech Connections did a video showing exactly this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO5fJ8z66Z8

Re:State of emergency declared after blackout plunges most o... by cloverich on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @11:31AM (#43185234)
> A car can't power an entire household for days on end using a few gallons of gasoline per day, etc

Average home uses 30kwH / day. Average EV battery size 40kwh. Correct not days on end, but at least a full day to full capacity, and perhaps a few days at reduced capacity. My Ioniq 5 has an 84kwH battery so I guess I'd get a bit further.

Re:State of emergency declared after blackout plunges most o... by rad_gruchalski on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @12:09PM (#43185647)
kWh
Re:State of emergency declared after blackout plunges most o... by kibwen on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @11:09AM (#43185002)
> A car can't power an entire household for days on end

This is underestimating the ludicrous amount of power an EV's batteries have. You can absolutely power your house for days on end using one. (Of course, that should also give us pause to think about what it means that we spend so much energy for transportation compared to household necessities.) And gasoline has plenty of problems too, like its extremely short shelf-life.

Re:State of emergency declared after blackout plunges most o... by mbesto on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @11:58AM (#43185528)
4 bedroom house in Austin, TX. A hot summer is around 100 kWh and my Rivian battery is 135 kWh. Which means I can roughly get a one full summer day out of my car's battery (assuming I still need to drive the car and usually leave it at 70% max).

So there you have it, I get about one full day. Not "days on end".

Re:State of emergency declared after blackout plunges most o... by qwerpy on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @01:02PM (#43186237)
That's on the higher end of household usage. On the lower end, during a cold windstorm in the PNW I was able to get it down to 600W (15 kWh/day) because I have mostly natural gas appliances. My Cybertruck kept us going for nearly a week with just one top-up (because I don't like to go above 80% or below 20%). We deferred using the dryer and dishwasher, and relied on the fireplace for warmth instead of the HVAC.

On a hot day yeah I'd be running the A/C but ideally you'd have solar to offset much of that.

Re:State of emergency declared after blackout plunges most o... by megaman821 on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @02:03PM (#43186922)
You could get something like a Span electrical panel and only enable critical loads during a blackout and set the AC a little higher than normal. Even a large house can go down to 20-30 kWh a day.
Re:State of emergency declared after blackout plunges most o... by tzs on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @02:55PM (#43187475)
On the other here in Washington a little west of Seattle with a 3 bedroom all electric house I use about 40 kWh a day in the coldest month of winter and 8-10 kWh a day in summer.
Re:State of emergency declared after blackout plunges most o... by whartung on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @11:19AM (#43185102)
I have two Tesla Powerwalls in my garage, and they (among other things) do just this.

I look at the size of those, and the size of a random Tesla, and I can easily see two of these shoved into the baseboard of a Tesla, much less the larger vehicles.

I know the Ford Lightning was advertised as a potential back up power source for the home.

The real trick is getting the power out of the battery and in to the home itself. It's one thing to run an extension cord to the refrigerator, quite another to get the battery plugged into your home circuitry. That requires more preparation, as well as an electrician.

Re:State of emergency declared after blackout plunges most o... by qwerpy on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @01:05PM (#43186257)
Cheap way to power the home directly is to get a generator inlet put in ($500-1000) and connect the vehicle to that. You can then use either a vehicle or a gas generator, which is useful during extended outages when you need to top up the car.

Expensive way is to get some manufacturer specific automatic transfer switch (I got Tesla's put in). The hardware is $2500 and the labor is $4K+.

I did both and used both during a recent week long outage.

Re:State of emergency declared after blackout plunges most o... by GiorgioG on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @11:32AM (#43185241)
You underestimate the ludicrous amount of power people use. In January (no A/C used) in my home we used 46kWh per day on average.