Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

Re:Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini IT... by cogman10 on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @03:14PM (#43176748)

> You can get similar bandwidth with server boards

Could be wrong, but I don't think you can. The bandwidth limit, AFAIK, is a problem with the DDR5 spec. These soldered solutions can go faster specifically because they aren't DDR5.

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Re:Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini IT... by nolist_policy on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @03:24PM (#43176896)

Desktop platforms only have 2 memory channels, amd's latest Epyc servers have 12 channels per socket. Strix Halo has 4 channels.

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Re:Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini IT... by sliken on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @12:45AM (#43181014)

Please don't misused channels. In DDR4 1 channel was 64 bits. In DDR5 1 channel is 32 bits. So a 128 bit wide DDR4 system had 2 channels, but a 128 bit wide DDR5 system has 4 channels.

The latest AMD server is 12 DIMMS wide, but has 24 channels of DDR5.

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Re:Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini IT... by sunshowers on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @03:17PM (#43176807)

Hmm, I think a Threadripper 7965WX can get you there. Probably around 4-5k all in so I guess similar pricing to a Mac Studio.

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Re:Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini IT... by sliken on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @12:44AM (#43181006)

Nvidia Grace is DDR5, hopper is HBM. Many servers like Intel and AMD's latest and greatest all use DDR5.

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