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Re:The foundations of America's prosperity are being dismantled by rimbo789 on Saturday February 22, 2025 @02:46PM (#43142446)
Was it prosperous or just literally using slave labour?

A huge amount of Americas wealth pre-civil war was built on Slavery and the associated industries.

Oh and stealing all the land.

Re:The foundations of America's prosperity are being dismantled by jslezak on Saturday February 22, 2025 @02:49PM (#43142480)
MAGA dudes would like America to be “Great Again” but would like you not to Google what the top marginal tax rate was in the pre-civil rights era they are taking us back to (hint: it was 90%)
Re:The foundations of America's prosperity are being dismantled by smeeger on Saturday February 22, 2025 @02:51PM (#43142495)
this is a common myth. effective tax rate for americas wealthiest men has never been at those levels.
Re:The foundations of America's prosperity are being dismantled by Spartan-S63 on Saturday February 22, 2025 @05:26PM (#43143913)
They said it perfectly. The top marginal rate was 90%. The effective rate was much lower, but it effectively capped cash salaries, largely for executives.
Re:The foundations of America's prosperity are being dismantled by smeeger on Saturday February 22, 2025 @10:09PM (#43146060)
cash salaries arent important to executives or rich people. they are important to peons which is why they flap their gums about it so much.
Re:The foundations of America's prosperity are being dismantled by 8biteye on Saturday February 22, 2025 @02:58PM (#43142576)
Every country in the world stole land from people that lived there before the current inhabitants. Every single one.
Re:The foundations of America's prosperity are being dismantled by smeeger on Saturday February 22, 2025 @02:49PM (#43142484)
the slaves probably helped a little but even with all the slaves in the world, a country that is corrupt and uninspired couldnt achieve half of what we have. the american work ethic is recognized by the whole world even today.
Re:The foundations of America's prosperity are being dismantled by 8biteye on Saturday February 22, 2025 @03:07PM (#43142663)
Agreed. If it was just stolen land and slave labor that propelled America to a global superpower, then why didn't it work out for India? Or Africa? Both of those places LOVE slavery and both murdered their way into existence (Africa still does) but yet they are not wonderful, advanced countries that embrace the rights of people.
Re:The foundations of America's prosperity are being dismantled by smeeger on Saturday February 22, 2025 @03:19PM (#43142780)
and we should all observe soberly the fact that slavery is evil and fundamentally un-American. thats why we excised it from our country.
Re:The foundations of America's prosperity are being dismantled by trod1234 on Saturday February 22, 2025 @03:37PM (#43142966)
It was prosperous, the original American dream is not the American dream people think of when they hear that today. Hollywood has sold a lie to everyone for almost a century.

The prosperity was inherent in the real American Dream which was based in Faith, Freedom, Self-sufficiency, Independence, Ownership, and No taxation without representation.

Today you don't have any of these in most respects because they have been withheld by the previous generation (boomers), who clings to power as they die of old age.

Lets do a short recap on the taxes for an average person: Federal 21.7 State 7.5-10 Medicare 2.9 Social Security 15.3 (you count employer side too because its money they can't pay you suppressing wages). Sales Tax ~10 Property 1% of the value of what you own Inheritance (50% above 1m)

Aggregate: 59.9% of everything you can make, and this isn't counting the triple dip on fuel taxes.

Then there is half of what you inherit, and 1% of the value of what you already own every year.

To put this in perspective, the boston tea party increase that sparked our history in 1776 was over a tax rate of 25%. The boot on neck, has been clever in withholding education and disrupting communication.

Parasites are the reason we are doing so poorly today, and why people can't find sufficient recompense to support life goals such as raising children. In 8 years, the birthrate will fall below the death rate.

Re:The foundations of America's prosperity are being dismantled by drivingmenuts on Saturday February 22, 2025 @04:06PM (#43143206)
And who are those parasites?
Re:The foundations of America's prosperity are being dismantled by Spartan-S63 on Saturday February 22, 2025 @05:28PM (#43143931)
> Social Security 15.3 (you count employer side too because its money they can't pay you suppressing wages)

Nit: this is disingenuous. If an employer didn’t have to pay that part of the tax, they wouldn’t pass it on to you. They’d pocket it.