Re:DOGE Puts $1 Spending Limit on Government Employee Credit...
by alaithea on Thursday February 20, 2025 @04:52PM
(#43120764)
Have you worked for the federal government? Employees literally have to fill out forms and follow a strict process to buy anything when they don't have these charge cards.
[ Parent
| on HN ]
Re:DOGE Puts $1 Spending Limit on Government Employee Credit...
by dragonwriter on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:23PM
(#43121098)
If my experience in non-federal government is any guide, they have similar requirements when they use the card, the difference is that it is after the fact and if the application gets rejected, the payment is the employee’s responsibility. The amount of red tape is the same either way, but with the caed the red tape happens after the purchase.
Re:DOGE Puts $1 Spending Limit on Government Employee Credit...
by michaelt on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:43PM
(#43121361)
With the card, the urgent next-day-delivery order is already on its way while the red tape waits for approval. And the worker enters the order into the supplier's website directly.
With a standard order, the urgent order is entered into Oracle Financials, waiting for approval, and some time during office hours in the next 1-2 days someone in finance will copy the order into the supplier's website, omitting one order line by accident.
Re:DOGE Puts $1 Spending Limit on Government Employee Credit...
by selectodude on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:32PM
(#43121210)
The federal government actually operates in the opposite way. They cosign a credit card under your name, you have to pay it off at the end of every month, and they reimburse you after the fact.
Re:DOGE Puts $1 Spending Limit on Government Employee Credit...
by dragonwriter on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:35PM
(#43121247)
That's pretty much the mechanism of acheiving the effect that I was describing on State governments I’ve seen, too. I was just trying to generalize on the level of responsibility, rather than detailed payment flow.
[dead]
Re:DOGE Puts $1 Spending Limit on Government Employee Credit...
by gaganyaan on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:11PM
(#43120956)
You have quite the imagination. Your fantasy of Musk's competence is unmoored from reality
Re:DOGE Puts $1 Spending Limit on Government Employee Credit...
by alaithea on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:01PM
(#43120856)
So, remove the checks and balances that were already put in place over decades to make sure employees are spending responsibly. Um, sure.
With the employee cards, all the transactions are traceable and can be monitored with a minimum of red tape. How exactly would one improve upon that? It's literally the technologically-enabled solution.
Re:DOGE Puts $1 Spending Limit on Government Employee Credit...
by johnnyanmac on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:15PM
(#43121013)
Do you shut down your entire business before rolling out a new system?
Re:DOGE Puts $1 Spending Limit on Government Employee Credit...
by viraptor on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:17PM
(#43121030)
If you want to save money and remove bureaucracy, you first create a system, then migrate to it and sort out issues, then remote the old system. Now it's going to take months to get something new in place, while also juggling manual approvals and getting things through payment systems individually.
Re:DOGE Puts $1 Spending Limit on Government Employee Credit...
by morcus on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:10PM
(#43120950)
Wouldn't it be prudent to do that before rolling out such a change?
Re:DOGE Puts $1 Spending Limit on Government Employee Credit...
by aldarisbm on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:17PM
(#43121036)
while you imagine this, let's waste order of magnitudes more in red tape, that is if your imagination and DOGE's imagination are in the same place.
Re:DOGE Puts $1 Spending Limit on Government Employee Credit...
by alabastervlog on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:01PM
(#43120863)
Re-discovering why things worked the way they did (waste, corruption, and fraud prevention) is gonna be fun.
Re:DOGE Puts $1 Spending Limit on Government Employee Credit...
by iAMkenough on Thursday February 20, 2025 @05:19PM
(#43121052)
You think they would have mentioned that in the memo if they were.