Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting Signal Messenger

Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by davidw on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:51PM (#43107491)

I wonder if someone in the US will declare that, actually, Signal is actively targeting the Russia-aligned threat actors.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by morkalork on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:06PM (#43107687)

Or that Signal shouldn't have started it in the first place

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by josefresco on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:28PM (#43107190)

Indeed. It now potentially includes a very long list of Americans.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by user3939382 on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:37PM (#43107332)

What does that mean?

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by chinathrow on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:39PM (#43107355)

Trump and his voters.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by burningChrome on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:06PM (#43107695)

Do people realize that Trump made major gains in several key demographics? Simply labeling all his voters as redneck, white nationalists is such a used up and stale argument now.

Five groups that made the difference:

- Latino men

- Black men

- Young voters (Gen Z and Millennials)

- First-time voters

- Rural voters

- Moderate voters

He also swept every battleground state.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by ericjmorey on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:17PM (#43107811)

What difference does that make? More people being openly malicious doesn't make them right.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by Juliate on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:10PM (#43107730)

They are still all trumpis now.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by warkdarrior on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:13PM (#43107760)

Nobody labeled Trump voters as "redneck, white nationalists" in this thread. The claim was that Trump and his voters are "Russia-aligned", which is obvious at least for Trump and his immediate admin appointees.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by LoganDark on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:40PM (#43108082)

I don't have opinions on most of this stuff but I know of some distant relative of mine who voted for Trump not because he's some sort of fascist but just because he didn't understand why voting for Trump maybe wasn't the best idea. People like this probably exist all over the place.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by kelnos on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:31PM (#43107990)

He also failed to secure a majority of the votes cast, winning with a mere plurality. (Not that the raw number of votes cast actually matters all that much, given our idiotic presidential electoral system.)

So what?

Totally agreed that it's out of bounds to label all Trump voters as rednecks & white nationalists. But not sure where you're getting that: read upthread. No one said anything like that. Just "Russia-aligned state actors". Which is also pretty silly.

But in a way, it's worse than all that. If his supporters were actually all rednecks & white nationalists (or Russia-aligned state actors), at least we could say, "well, the country is actually full of shitty, uneducated, racist people, so I guess this actually is the will of the people". But right, that's not the case. Instead, Trump and the GOP have lied and manipulated to the point they've managed to dupe a much more diverse group of people into believing in Trump. Or, at the very least, into believing that the system needs to burn in order for it to be remade in a way that will serve these people's interests.

All this is a crock, of course, and there are already quite a few surprised and upset Trump voters who have experienced an interruption or loss of some government service that they depend on. So ok, let's expand it the list. Sure, there are rednecks & white nationalists. But there are also just regular ol' idiots who fell for Trump's nonsense. And actively awful people who are fine with a lot of others getting hurt, just to spite the current establishment.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by user3939382 on Thursday February 20, 2025 @10:33AM (#43115916)

Not sure why hating Russia should be treated as axiomatic.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by Frederation on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:04PM (#43107668)

I though5 drugs were illegal where you come from.. cuz you smokin' some bad shit, blyat.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by ivan192831 on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:12PM (#43107743)

Where do I come from? The top comment has just established that 50% of US citizens are Russian assets.

Is your comment perhaps the usual damage control from organizations that still have remaining USAID funding? Is is highly illogical in this context.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by Frederation on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:18PM (#43107822)

boo

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by gfkclzhzo on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:31PM (#43107239)

Can you elaborate? I'm not sure what you're referring to.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by 4ndrewl on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:46PM (#43107436)

Only that the President is now trotting out lines created by the Kremlin's propaganda machine.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by ziddoap on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:35PM (#43107304)

They are saying that the USA is potentially a Russia-aligned threat actor.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by ponector on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:52PM (#43107504)

Try to open news about USA-Russia latest talks. Basically Trump now is repeating propaganda topics from Russia Today, their fake claims about Ukraine.

USA pushed Ukraine to give up nukes, offered security assurances instead. And then during full scale war donated just 30 old tanks. And now Trump is talking with Putin behind Ukraine's back on how they should surrender.

Unfortunately USA is not a superpower anymore and their word means nothing.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by tomrod on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:58PM (#43108286)

> Unfortunately USA is not a superpower anymore and their word means nothing.

I wish this were true, and while Mr. Trump has dedicated himself to ripping up the world order, the US still has way too many nukes to not treat as a substantial power.

If the US isn't a superpower, I'm not sure there are any superpowers left.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by e40 on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:37PM (#43107338)

POTUS giving Putin just what he wants re Ukraine. Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave at near light speed, I imagine.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by pawelduda on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:40PM (#43107368)

Trump blames Ukraine for starting the war, Putin is happy

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by 4ndrewl on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:48PM (#43107449)

I heard he also blames Poland for being invaded and starting WWII. As to that Archduke Ferdinand, diving in front of that bullet. Was asking for it.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by phoe-krk on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:55PM (#43107537)

> I heard he also blames Poland for being invaded and starting WWII.

This one is fake, even if plausible. https://www.der-postillon.com/2025/02/ueberfall-auf-polen.ht... - Der Postillon is equivalent to US's The Onion.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by margalabargala on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:59PM (#43107600)

The person you replied to was joking, but it makes it even funnier that you didn't think they were.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by phoe-krk on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:02PM (#43107635)

As someone living in Poland and tracking the developments in the US, when I used the word "plausible", I meant it.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by ziddoap on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:37PM (#43108057)

>This comment isn't witty, and it doesn't contain any useful information or promote discussion either.

Complaining about the comment isn't witty, contain useful information, or promote discussion either.

I would recommend being the change you want to see in the world (or avoid political threads).

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by harperawl on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:50PM (#43108208)

I strongly agree - HN has become increasingly Redditified in the political discussion sense. I think this website has the potential to have (and often already has) some of the best serious discussion on the internet, so it really nags at me that people have eroded this standard a lot recently IMO.

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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by Swoerd on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:26PM (#43107921)

Sorry that you are so inconvenienced by the Russian coup of the US.

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