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Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by user3939382 on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:37PM (#43107332)
What does that mean?
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by chinathrow on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:39PM (#43107355)
Trump and his voters.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by burningChrome on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:06PM (#43107695)
Do people realize that Trump made major gains in several key demographics? Simply labeling all his voters as redneck, white nationalists is such a used up and stale argument now.

Five groups that made the difference:

- Latino men

- Black men

- Young voters (Gen Z and Millennials)

- First-time voters

- Rural voters

- Moderate voters

He also swept every battleground state.

Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by ericjmorey on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:17PM (#43107811)
What difference does that make? More people being openly malicious doesn't make them right.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by Juliate on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:10PM (#43107730)
They are still all trumpis now.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by warkdarrior on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:13PM (#43107760)
Nobody labeled Trump voters as "redneck, white nationalists" in this thread. The claim was that Trump and his voters are "Russia-aligned", which is obvious at least for Trump and his immediate admin appointees.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by LoganDark on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:40PM (#43108082)
I don't have opinions on most of this stuff but I know of some distant relative of mine who voted for Trump not because he's some sort of fascist but just because he didn't understand why voting for Trump maybe wasn't the best idea. People like this probably exist all over the place.
Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by kelnos on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:31PM (#43107990)
He also failed to secure a majority of the votes cast, winning with a mere plurality. (Not that the raw number of votes cast actually matters all that much, given our idiotic presidential electoral system.)

So what?

Totally agreed that it's out of bounds to label all Trump voters as rednecks & white nationalists. But not sure where you're getting that: read upthread. No one said anything like that. Just "Russia-aligned state actors". Which is also pretty silly.

But in a way, it's worse than all that. If his supporters were actually all rednecks & white nationalists (or Russia-aligned state actors), at least we could say, "well, the country is actually full of shitty, uneducated, racist people, so I guess this actually is the will of the people". But right, that's not the case. Instead, Trump and the GOP have lied and manipulated to the point they've managed to dupe a much more diverse group of people into believing in Trump. Or, at the very least, into believing that the system needs to burn in order for it to be remade in a way that will serve these people's interests.

All this is a crock, of course, and there are already quite a few surprised and upset Trump voters who have experienced an interruption or loss of some government service that they depend on. So ok, let's expand it the list. Sure, there are rednecks & white nationalists. But there are also just regular ol' idiots who fell for Trump's nonsense. And actively awful people who are fine with a lot of others getting hurt, just to spite the current establishment.

Re:Multiple Russia-aligned threat actors actively targeting ... by user3939382 on Thursday February 20, 2025 @10:33AM (#43115916)
Not sure why hating Russia should be treated as axiomatic.