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Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e by mperham on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @11:16AM (#43103784)
Whoa, shipping their own baseband modem for the first time, skipping the Qualcomm tax. That's huge, even for Apple.
Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e by fionaellie on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @12:18PM (#43104625)
Thank you for knowing how to spell "whoa".
Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e by skyyler on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @12:30PM (#43104785)
Until today I thought they were interchangeable spellings.

I'm curious, is "woah" incorrect? If so, why?

Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e by quesera on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @12:54PM (#43105089)
Even as the instinctive prescriptivist that I am, I can't possibly get get worked up about permutations on onomatopoeia.
Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e by swores on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:28PM (#43105533)
Not even something like "woe" for woah, or "hmf" for hmph? :P
Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e by quesera on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @05:38PM (#43108666)
You raise good points. :)

Actually I like "hmf" despite my usual distaste for the dilution of "ph" to "f". The "ph" in "hmph" seems incidental, so it does not trigger me, I guess!

There is a highway sign somewhere on I-95 for "Fenix Ave", which took me a while to realize was a vicious act committed by illiterates against "Phoenix Avenue".

Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e by cptcobalt on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @12:55PM (#43105116)
Whoa is just older. https://www.dictionary.com/e/whoa-or-woah/

Dictionaries are descriptive of actual use, not prescriptive rulings. Both spellings are completely valid, the pedantry is incorrect.

Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e by OptionOfT on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @11:32AM (#43104031)
I'm interested to see how these perform at the edge of reception, which still is a massive drain. Before I had an iPhone with satellite reception, turning on airplane mode when hiking was essential for battery life.

My current iPhone (and I had to check which one I have...) actually is much more sticky to satellite. It wont switch back to cellular immediately.

Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e by BrandonSmith on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @11:32AM (#43104023)
I'm sure Apple still pays patent licensing fees to Qualcomm even if Apple is now manufacturing their own modem.
Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e by GeekyBear on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:54PM (#43107525)
In the past, Qualcomm was infamous for high licensing fees.

However, part of the process of creating an open industry standard like 4G/5G is getting a legally binding commitment from the patent holders to license standards essential patents to all takers on "reasonable" terms.

> If the patent holder refuses upon request to license a patent that has become essential to a standard, then the standard-setting organization must exclude that technology.

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_and_non-discrimina...

So Qualcomm is still entitled to some money, but not nearly as much as they made back when there was no legal restriction on what they could demand.

Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e by uni_baconcat on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @07:54PM (#43109823)
And I noticed that Apple C1 skipped 3G network entirely. Only has 2G,4G and 5G support.
Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e by GeekyBear on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @09:59PM (#43110577)
I imagine the 2G network they are talking about is GSM, which is a 2G open standard created in the EU and used internationally.

> It was first implemented in Finland in December 1991. By the mid-2010s, it became a global standard for mobile communications achieving over 90% market share, and operating in over 193 countries and territories.

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM

Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e by kalleboo on Thursday February 20, 2025 @07:55PM (#43122767)
The iPhone 16e Tech Specs page lists 3G (UMTS/HSDPA) support. It's missing CDMA, but they already dropped that way back with the iPhone 14

https://www.apple.com/iphone-16e/specs/

5G NR (Bands n1, n2, n3, n5, n7, n8, n12, n14, n20, n25, n26, n28, n29, n30, n38, n40, n41, n48, n53, n66, n70, n71, n75, n76, n77, n78, n79)

FDD‑LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)

TD‑LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 48, 53)

UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)

GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

Re:Apple Debuts iPhone 16e by uni_baconcat on Thursday February 20, 2025 @10:51PM (#43123824)
Yeah you are right. I checked the website again. The missing one is DC-HSDPA. I incorrectly think that is the entire 3G networks.