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Re:Top Social Security Official Leaves After Musk Team Seeks... by 9283409232 on Monday February 17, 2025 @10:30PM (#43085801)
When Musk accessed the Treasury department data, people here gaslit themselves into it making sense by saying "he needs to see where the money is being sent out!" So why does he need access to social security information? On top of there being no reason for him having it, there is no oversight into what he is doing with it. My guesses are both blackmail and feeding it into his companies' AI. Perhaps for targeting if you wanna get really conspiratorial?
Re:Top Social Security Official Leaves After Musk Team Seeks... by silexia on Monday February 17, 2025 @11:02PM (#43085948)
Read only access would be required to find potential fraud. Everyone here has been saying the millions of database records of Social Security people potentially collecting benefits between the ages of 100-150 is just a COBOL programming deal... but what if it is not? We should check.
Re:Top Social Security Official Leaves After Musk Team Seeks... by 9283409232 on Monday February 17, 2025 @11:08PM (#43085975)
There is no reason to expect that he will have read-only access given that he and his team had write access to the Treasury data. Social security fraud also has to be less than .2% of spending. Is this really worth wasting time on? Doesn't sound like the Department of Government Efficiency is being very time efficient.
Re:Top Social Security Official Leaves After Musk Team Seeks... by vaxman on Monday February 17, 2025 @11:55PM (#43086194)
If they catch his team copying the data, he should literally be executed. Otherwise, audit on..
Re:Top Social Security Official Leaves After Musk Team Seeks... by nielsbot on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @01:25AM (#43086646)
i don’t want him even seeing the data, sorry. audit through the normal channels. or, failing that, go after the pentagon where the real fraud (and savings) are.
Re:Top Social Security Official Leaves After Musk Team Seeks... by 9283409232 on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @10:44AM (#43090822)
They already caught his team copying Treasury data onto a private server.
Re:Top Social Security Official Leaves After Musk Team Seeks... by lesuorac on Monday February 17, 2025 @11:09PM (#43085983)
Good point.

First we should check if you're an American because otherwise you shouldn't be able to help us check.

Please post your Social Security number, Name, Mother's Madien Name, and last 4 of each of your Credit Cards.

Re:Top Social Security Official Leaves After Musk Team Seeks... by nielsbot on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @01:23AM (#43086638)
pretty sure we already had auditors. this is something else.
Re:Top Social Security Official Leaves After Musk Team Seeks... by Rastonbury on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @02:06AM (#43086839)
Yeah it sure is looking like that to a non-American like me, looking for witch hunt ammo on political opponents, sure the government makes a lot of social security payment and salaries I doubt there is widespread fraud or improrietry there, worse is if you mess all that plumbing up legit social payments and salaries are going get impacted, these are things that should not done by "move fast and break things" approach. But what about other massive government procurement from corporations and overcharging?
Re:Top Social Security Official Leaves After Musk Team Seeks... by phendrenad2 on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @01:03PM (#43092988)
Hasn't Musk said that he found 150+ year old people receiving social security? It seems like the answer is obvious if you look for it.
Re:Top Social Security Official Leaves After Musk Team Seeks... by 9283409232 on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @04:58PM (#43095651)
First, Musk is a liar and is often wrong or stretching the truth. You can find out about that here: https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-doge-social-security-1...

Second, even if he is telling the truth, that is .000001% of the US budget. An extreme waste of time to hunt after it.

Re:Top Social Security Official Leaves After Musk Team Seeks... by phendrenad2 on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @08:19PM (#43097408)
Okay now I'm confused. I just read "In 2023, Social Security was responsible for $106 billion in deficits, or 6 percent of the entire federal budget deficit".
Re:Top Social Security Official Leaves After Musk Team Seeks... by 9283409232 on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @08:41PM (#43097556)
I'm talking about social security fraud specifically which is what the above post is talking about when mentioning people aged 150 claiming benefits.