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Re:Leaking the email of any YouTube user for $10,000 by 0xDEAFBEAD on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @11:20AM (#43026834)
Sure, but do adtech companies buy vulnerabilities in web services to advance their mission? Wouldn't that risk running foul of e.g. the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act?
Re:Leaking the email of any YouTube user for $10,000 by notpushkin on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @11:53AM (#43027152)
You don‘t need to sell the vulnerability to them, or even tell them the vulnerability is there. Just set up an API and bill them by the query.
Re:Leaking the email of any YouTube user for $10,000 by fn-mote on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @12:10PM (#43027324)
This ignores tptacek's points in the top-level post.

> [...] a bug that Google can kill instantaneously, that has effectively no half-life once discovered, and whose exploitation will generate reliable telemetry from the target.

You can't set up unmask-as-a-service because it's going to take you longer to get clients than it will take Google to shut down your exploit.

Re:Leaking the email of any YouTube user for $10,000 by notpushkin on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @12:28PM (#43027521)
Yes, but:

1. It can still take a while before Google finds out

2. You can log every mapping you got in the meanwhile, then keep selling the ones you already have

Edit: although probably most of your business will be over when word gets out that your data isn’t exactly legal (which your clients have understood from the start, of course; they could just plead ignorance)

Re:Leaking the email of any YouTube user for $10,000 by sushid on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @01:36PM (#43028284)
People keep talking about this as if there's a 0% chance of being caught if you do this?.

So let's suppose that you did set up the service like this. Can you even make 10 K? What are your odds of getting caught? How much do you value not being in prison and/or having to hire a lawyer to get you out of there?

I'd take the 10k every time.

Re:Leaking the email of any YouTube user for $10,000 by wepple on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @03:14PM (#43029284)
You’re talking about this as if there aren’t other countries who actively infiltrate power infrastructure and for whom this is the most low risk mild attack (if you can call it that)

I’m not speaking theoretically, which I suspect most on this thread are.

Re:Leaking the email of any YouTube user for $10,000 by sushid on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @06:03PM (#43030733)
Okay, which state actor is going to buy this for $100,000? How are you going to sell it to them? What's the risk of getting caught?

Even if someone on telegram was telling me that Russia would buy this information for $100,000, I think I would reach out to Google and "settle" for $10k.

Re:Leaking the email of any YouTube user for $10,000 by notpushkin on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @02:13PM (#43028663)
I’d take the 10k, too, but I think it’s possible to pull this off without getting caught.

It’s a lot more work, of course, but you can scrape some top youtubers first as it seems relatively easy. If you can pull this off you can then try and figure out how to legitimize your offering – I won’t go into details here, for obvious reasons, but now that you have something valuable on your hands it makes sense to spend some time/money on selling that.

Re:Leaking the email of any YouTube user for $10,000 by bredren on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @12:18PM (#43027401)
I’ve seen a light version of this, where a “marketing data” company was scraping baby shower gift registry pages and selling the data to an infant formula company in the US.

The scraping was def in violation of the EULAs. Product data is one thing, but I believe this group was combining it with other sources and selling the identities and context as a bundle.

Re:Leaking the email of any YouTube user for $10,000 by fragmede on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @12:55PM (#43027811)
An API is too much work. Grab the addresses for the top 100,000 YouTubers and sell that csv on the dark web.
Re:Leaking the email of any YouTube user for $10,000 by 0xDEAFBEAD on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @09:00PM (#43031918)
What happens when the first to buy the CSV starts selling it themselves?
Re:Leaking the email of any YouTube user for $10,000 by fragmede on Thursday February 13, 2025 @01:08AM (#43033163)
That’s not a new problem with selling info on dark web marketplaces. if you're interested in learning more, here are a couple of books you might enjoy:

"The Dark Net” – Jamie Bartlett “We Are Anonymous” – Parmy Olson “Future Crimes” – Marc Goodman “Kingpin” – Kevin Poulsen